"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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How NOT to pull women

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Ways you have lost women / Ways Not to pull a women.

I want you guys to brain storm ideas on how not to pull women, the wrong approaches, the way to act like a wuss and genrally make youself fail with women.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Be like me or several other people on this forum. Haha.

Seriously though ...

If you're walking around not smiling, not approaching women, and desperate for a girlfriend then you're bound to get no women at all. You better get working on being more desperate buddy! ;)
 

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I need alot more replys to this post please comon brainstorm people - then come back and see this post in a days time.... i will tell you why later and it will make more sense 2mrw...I got one this is how to really **** up with a women. Keep complimenting her and telling her how much you dont deserve to be with her
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Man there must be some people out there who are don juans who used to be afcs .. Share the ways you really screwed up.
 

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Well here's what I used to do.

Go to a club. Stand against a wall with a pint in my hand. Oggle the women, THINK about going up to them, getting more drunk. Go home alone.

Wake up the next day saying 'Next time'

It's not a funny story of a momentus **** up, it's worse. A lot worse than at least trying and failing. I suspect this is the most common and the most shameful AFC behavior.
 

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Alpine i relate to you . I need more people to tell me how to **** up with girls comon you all know how to **** up.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm not sure whether that's a compliment or an insult but thanks anyway.

I am slightly intrigued though. Why the focus on what not to do rather than what you should do?

I'd be careful with this because, like with affirmation and mental rehersal training you tend to follow up on what you focus on.

It's like the golfer, 'Must avoid the bunker, must avoid the bunker'
 

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when they start talking about "how their gonna have a future with you", YOU BEST IGNORE THEM! That is how that set their trap into you. If you take her serious, that's gonna make you wanna "wife" her, and that's gonna put her on a pedestal! She'll treat you like Afghan Trash then she's gonna cheat on you behind your back, and when she gets in your face, she's gonna say she loves you hoping that you'll drop her some cold, hard cash so that she can go to the movies with her new boyfriend that you don't know about. Then she's gonna be all up in your face, kissing your lips after sucking on his d1ck!
 

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want another one. Don't call her everyday, even if she says she wants you to. Even if she gives you this ultimatum: "If you can't call me, not even for 5 mins to see how my day went, then we're gonna have problems.." don't fall for that sh1t. it's another trap. You call her everyday for a week. Then everyday a week for a month; then 2 months; 6 months... you're gonna get used to talking to her EVERYDAY. She's gonna get tired of hearing from you, and she's gonna tell you to stop calling her. Guess what? YOU CAN'T! Because everyday of your life for 2 years... you've gotten so used to calling her that it doesn't feel "normal" or "right" to not call. Then she's gonna start hanging up on you. That really hurts. She might even say "I'll call you back." And your azz is gonna be waiting by that phone, and when she doesn't call. DAMN! There goes your heart. And your pride. So don't call her everyday. If she gives you an ultimatum, that's an obvious point from the start that she doesn't give a fvck about you. Would you give someone you really like an ultimatum? No.
 

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Try to be real good friends with a girl first.

Wait for the girl to make the first move.

Call her all the time.

Tell her you love her.

After you go on a date, make plans for the next date before leaving.

Ask her where she wants to go and what she wants to do.

Think before you approach a girl, to the point where it is so built up that your ego refuses to let you.

Be emotional with her.

Take everything she says seriously.

Treat her differently than you treat other people.

Get upset when she plays mind games.

Demand she behave a certain way.

Back down from arguments with her.

Buy her gifts to win affection.

Use pickup lines to break the ice. Nice shoes.

Ask if you can kiss her, and ask to have sex.

Compliment her on how beautiful she is.

Commit to a relationship immediately without knowing much about her.

Don't worry about personal hygiene.

Haircuts are expensive, just like nice shoes and cologne. Skip them and buy more speed seduction material.

Clothes don't make the man. Wear XXL white tshirts even though you weigh 135 lbs. And wifebeaters.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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dont take to long to make a move

dont act nervous

dont bore her

dont let her walk all over you and tell you what to do.

dont keep talking to her day in day out (you must give her time to miss you)
 

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act like every other chump out there and fawn over her, be indecisive, wishy/washy, question yourself, make intermittent eye contact, look like you're scared or insecure, look uncomfortable & always have a stiff posture w/ your arms closed.
 

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check_mate_kid_uk this discusssion is how not to pull girls or how not to get laid your post should have been.


take to long to make a move

act nervous

bore her

let her walk all over you and tell you what to do.

keep talking to her day in day out (dont give her time to miss you)
 

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Right the main aim for this forum was to maybe help out some new people to the forum. I have been doing training in work were we would try to come up with some ways to make customers not want to come back to our branch and how to make customers complain about us. The idea behind this was to change what you want to do to what you dont want to do. By doing this it makes it eaiser for your brain to come up with what you really want for example psb came up with a huge list of things you shouldnt do and from this you can do the oposite to find out what you should be doing. If you can not reverse them directly you can discover what you want to do through patterns.


Basicly coming up with bad ideas intentionally is a great way for people to generate good ideas .

Thanks this has really helped me especially psb`s post.

Check this out for what i mean. http://www.team-creations.com/Articles/art2498.htm
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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