I'm hearing ... "They were born with the talents of socializing" or "It's all experience and that is how they became good with women." and "Just be yourself.". What do you guys think that these "real guys" did or have that makes women want them?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
How non-online "DJ"s get (almost) any chicks they want
- Thread starter tactic
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
There are no naturals.
Sexuality is not genetic, nor instinctive. It is learned. Some guys were just blessed to have had great MALE ROLE MODELS who taught them at a very early age the ways of attraction, seduction, and social skills.
The so-called "naturals" are merely products of their environment, as all of us are. Don't be in awe or intimidated by them. With time and effort, you can be a "natural" too.
Sexuality is not genetic, nor instinctive. It is learned. Some guys were just blessed to have had great MALE ROLE MODELS who taught them at a very early age the ways of attraction, seduction, and social skills.
The so-called "naturals" are merely products of their environment, as all of us are. Don't be in awe or intimidated by them. With time and effort, you can be a "natural" too.
LOL, I already know that. But the thing about being raised to get better at socializing in the future; I think it's good to start at a really early age, don't you think? I must admit, I was a total dumbass one or two years ago asking myself "How come they can do it, and I can't?" ...Well, I've been doing a little study on these guys who are "DJ" themselves without knowing who the heck he is, and i knew that these guys are the same as us. I hope the AFCs know that the DJs are human and they have more experience than them.
I remember somebody saying about some people having more wisdom than others and more of a brain. I think I should bring a discussion about this.
I remember somebody saying about some people having more wisdom than others and more of a brain. I think I should bring a discussion about this.
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Wrong.... Sexual appeal (Physical), conversationalskills etc IS genetic.Originally posted by Survivor
There are no naturals.
Sexuality is not genetic, nor instinctive. It is learned.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
il_duce
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This is wrong.Originally posted by tactic
So social skills can be borned with, you're saying? Explain.
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Obviously, personality is mainly genetic - you have one brother that speaks very little and is extremely shy while the other brother is hysterically funny and extremely sociable!!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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I'm not screwing with anyones mind. Your personality is created both by your surroundings, influence and also by genetics... So are your traits such as Conversational skills etc etc.... The linguistic part of the brain may be better inn someone and worse in someone else just as some people have a _natural_ easyness for mathetmatics.
Some people have talent, natural skills etc for some stuff, others do not.
Some people have talent, natural skills etc for some stuff, others do not.
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He practices.
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He practices.
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Well yeah but isn't that different? Instrument playing skills cannot be borned. It's practice... But approaching women deals with social skills. Mothers might've had their baby to become super-active and her other son very shy and lonely. There are little kids who are very active and playful whenever i see them during a hang-out or a walk to somewhere.
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Actually the talent for playing can also be genetic.... There is a reason for musicians often getting childs with a talent for playing music..... Genetic pairing gives genetic results and traits passed on from parents...Originally posted by tactic
Well yeah but isn't that different? Instrument playing skills cannot be borned. It's practice... But approaching women deals with social skills. Mothers might've had their baby to become super-active and her other son very shy and lonely. There are little kids who are very active and playful whenever i see them during a hang-out or a walk to somewhere.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
"Actually the talent for playing can also be genetic.... There is a reason for musicians often getting childs with a talent for playing music..... Genetic pairing gives genetic results and traits passed on from parents..."
no, you will never see a kid just pick up an instrument and be good with it. anyone can be taleneted with anything if they practice at it.
and playing music is bull****. ANY one can develop the handeye coordination to beable play music. Its not even hard. I mean, maybe if your slow, or mentally handicapped, but any normal person can play music of a moderate difficulty with enough practice. Musical parents have kids that are good at music because they introduce them to it at an early age. If a kid spends alot of time playing music, then hell yes, he will probably be good at it. You are formed during your childhood.
You take a kid, lock him in a room between the ages of 2 and 8, with no social contact, and he will be stunted for life. It has happened before. He won't beable to talk correctly, and im pretty sure its impossible to teach him above like a 5th grade level. THey just dont have the ablilty. He will also have no talents.
survivor has it right.
if your a "natural", you learned it from someone/somewhere. Either by watching people interact, or through trial and error on your own.
"So are your traits such as Conversational skills etc etc.... The linguistic part of the brain may be better inn someone and worse in someone else just as some people have a _natural_ easyness for mathetmatics."
If you have bad conversational skills, then you were never taught how to properly communicate as a child most likely, or you never picked up on it. You can learn to communicate, its not hard. But if your good, its not just because its genetic, its because you've LEARNED how to be a good communicator, you've figured out what works and what doesn't, and you've stopped doing what doesn't. Its the basis of all learning, and it has nothing to do with genetics.
Now, some people learn stuff more easily then others. That may be genetic, it may not be, i can't say. But anything you learn, which is EVERYTHING, is not genetic.
"Some people have talent, natural skills etc for some stuff, others do not."
take a kid, don't push him to be physically active, turns into a nerd, spends alot of time at the PC, and turns into a really good programmer. not genetic. Put him into any physical sport, and he won't be good. (assuming he doesn't have experience in sports).
Now take the same kid, but put him in alot of sports, he will be atleast decent at all sports just from his knowledge and athleticism of the sport hes best at. He will be good at sports, but will never be the programmer now.
take the same and put him in front of the paino, and you know what will happen.
Its not genetic at all, its just what you were taught to value as a child. I remember watching this thing about a 5 yr old black kid who could play the paino something redicilous. Him and his dad would have speed competitions, and he could play SO fast. I guarentee he wouldn't have gotten good at the paino if it just sat in the corner of the room, and his dad didnt love it and play it alot. His dad taught him how to play, and kids want to do what there parents do.
no, you will never see a kid just pick up an instrument and be good with it. anyone can be taleneted with anything if they practice at it.
and playing music is bull****. ANY one can develop the handeye coordination to beable play music. Its not even hard. I mean, maybe if your slow, or mentally handicapped, but any normal person can play music of a moderate difficulty with enough practice. Musical parents have kids that are good at music because they introduce them to it at an early age. If a kid spends alot of time playing music, then hell yes, he will probably be good at it. You are formed during your childhood.
You take a kid, lock him in a room between the ages of 2 and 8, with no social contact, and he will be stunted for life. It has happened before. He won't beable to talk correctly, and im pretty sure its impossible to teach him above like a 5th grade level. THey just dont have the ablilty. He will also have no talents.
survivor has it right.
if your a "natural", you learned it from someone/somewhere. Either by watching people interact, or through trial and error on your own.
"So are your traits such as Conversational skills etc etc.... The linguistic part of the brain may be better inn someone and worse in someone else just as some people have a _natural_ easyness for mathetmatics."
If you have bad conversational skills, then you were never taught how to properly communicate as a child most likely, or you never picked up on it. You can learn to communicate, its not hard. But if your good, its not just because its genetic, its because you've LEARNED how to be a good communicator, you've figured out what works and what doesn't, and you've stopped doing what doesn't. Its the basis of all learning, and it has nothing to do with genetics.
Now, some people learn stuff more easily then others. That may be genetic, it may not be, i can't say. But anything you learn, which is EVERYTHING, is not genetic.
"Some people have talent, natural skills etc for some stuff, others do not."
take a kid, don't push him to be physically active, turns into a nerd, spends alot of time at the PC, and turns into a really good programmer. not genetic. Put him into any physical sport, and he won't be good. (assuming he doesn't have experience in sports).
Now take the same kid, but put him in alot of sports, he will be atleast decent at all sports just from his knowledge and athleticism of the sport hes best at. He will be good at sports, but will never be the programmer now.
take the same and put him in front of the paino, and you know what will happen.
Its not genetic at all, its just what you were taught to value as a child. I remember watching this thing about a 5 yr old black kid who could play the paino something redicilous. Him and his dad would have speed competitions, and he could play SO fast. I guarentee he wouldn't have gotten good at the paino if it just sat in the corner of the room, and his dad didnt love it and play it alot. His dad taught him how to play, and kids want to do what there parents do.
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I see you dont know much about genetics.... Go read up on traits and simular and genetics and then come back.
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Everyone has the potential for genius. Sometimes it has been bred out or conditioned out and we need to conciously practice these skills to make them ours again. Practice makes perfect. Do you think Payton Manning always threw the way he does now? No, he had some talent and he stuck with it to make what he does now look effortless.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.