"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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How Much Does Fashion Matter?

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The reason I ask this is because I've never really paid a whole lot of attention to what I wear. That's not to say I don't try to dress well and look nice, but I've never really put much thought into the clothing that I wear. While reading some of the 'self-improvement' threads, I saw plenty of fashion advice.

Now, what I wear goes against much of the advice I saw here. I don't wear jeans or polo-shirts because I find them to be uncomfortable. I am a huge White Sox fan (Major League baseball team) so after they won the World Series last year every day I would come to school wearing a different White Sox shirt. There were plenty of people who commented on me only wearing one type of shirt but I either ignored them or told them to go to hell if they said they didn't like it.

On a final note, I was surprised by the "don't show your socks" advice - is it really that big of a deal? I find the ankle socks to be horribly uncomfortable compared to the longer socks. Also, I've never thought of socks as being even remotely important to fashion as long as they weren't too long or too noticeable.

My question is, how important is fashion to you and am I wrong for having a "I don't give a ****" type attitude towards it? I don't really need to build up confidence through my clothing because I'm comfortable in the way I look and the clothes I wear.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I haven't found fashion very important. It really has the same effect as looks, but fashion is something you can improve. My advice, dont wear the same shirt every day. I personally don't like ankle socks either, you don't need to wear them.
To put it in terms of this website: fashion won't stop or enable you to date a girl, but you will start off with a slightly higher interest level with a good fashion sense.
 

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Ankle socks suck balls. I found some Adidas low cuts that fit comfortably--any other brand than that is terrible.

If polo shirts and jeans aren't your thing, wearing khakis on a regular basis with track/sweat pants here and there isn't such a bad thing (or at least at my school it isn't..khakis are much more comfortable than jeans). I like wearing sports apparel too, I do that a lot, but mix it up a little. I'm sure you like more sports than baseball and more teams than the South Siders.

Also, being from Michigan, I have one more thing to say.


GO TIGERS.
 

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rowing_mike said:
I haven't found fashion very important. It really has the same effect as looks, but fashion is something you can improve. My advice, dont wear the same shirt every day. I personally don't like ankle socks either, you don't need to wear them.
To put it in terms of this website: fashion won't stop or enable you to date a girl, but you will start off with a slightly higher interest level with a good fashion sense.
I didn't say that I wore the same shirt everyday, more or less the same "type" of shirt (every shirt had White Sox stuff on it). Though if there is something I would change about my clothing, it would be to widen the variety of my wardrobe. I have received multiple comments about the shirts I wear everyday being too similar.
 

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supajsilver2 said:
Ankle socks suck balls. I found some Adidas low cuts that fit comfortably--any other brand than that is terrible.

If polo shirts and jeans aren't your thing, wearing khakis on a regular basis with track/sweat pants here and there isn't such a bad thing (or at least at my school it isn't..khakis are much more comfortable than jeans). I like wearing sports apparel too, I do that a lot, but mix it up a little. I'm sure you like more sports than baseball and more teams than the South Siders.

Also, being from Michigan, I have one more thing to say.


GO TIGERS.
I do wear khakis on a regular basis, and you are right that I need to mix it up a little. I may like to watch White Sox games, but I actually hate playing baseball itself. The only problem now is that about 50% of my wardrobe is White Sox related, I need to buy more variety.

As for the Tigers, just wait until they have to face the Sox again.;)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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FASHION, meaning what's in and what's not nowadays is less important than finding a style you feel and look good in.

Find your style of clothing, put on some GREAT clothes, look at yourself, then look at yourself with clothes looking like Salvation Army. Feel the difference.

No substitute for good clothe.s
 

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haha theres actually people our age that dont wear ankle socks? like maybe if its cold out and im wearing long pants i'll wear regulars, but other than that im always in ankles. and i find them way more comfy than the regulars.

anyway, mrs made a good point. its not as much "fashion" as it is "style". you dont want to be one of those pathetic, probably in the closet guys who buys a whole new wardrobe every year. get a style that works for you and keep it. it may not necessarily be the polo jeans khaki etc look that alot of people on here like (including me) but its gotta look good.
 

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WHen I'm wearing shorts and sh*t I wear high football/baseball socks.

I wear whatever socks i can find when I wear pants...


As for my style recommendation...I wear sh*t like this
 

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In high school you would look gay with your shirt tucked into your pants that high.

Skilla, you look like a ****ing chump.

Of course it ****ing matters cowhead, just don't kill yourself over it.
 

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wear ankle socks when you wear shorts... I don't see any comfort diference between them and longer ones ...
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Bvbidd said:
In high school you would look gay with your shirt tucked into your pants that high.

Skilla, you look like a ****ing chump.

Of course it ****ing matters cowhead, just don't kill yourself over it.
that time of the month?
 

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LMAO I look like a f*cking chump? Every girl that has seen the way I dress these days sits there and tells me how f*cking sexy it is. Girls love this sh*t bro. I've got girls who have that picture saved on their desktop background. I've got girls sitting there telling that they wished more guys dressed like me.

Get over it bro. I got style.
 

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Lets be honest..... if you had style, not saying you don't... you wouldn't care what any random shmuck had to say and supplicate yourself to him through details of what some girl did.
 

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I do have style, and I'm a very arguementative person. If you cut me down, I will defend myself, but thats off the topic.


You should definitely focus on your style. The more clean cut you are, and the more you seperate yourselves from every other guy, the better off you'll be.
 

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Here us just something you could do to improve on that look bro. If you had style you wouldn't tuck that shirt in, you'd roll up the sleeves or at least roll the cuffs back, you'd get a belt that looked good with your outfit, and you'd prolly unbutton the second button from the top as well, and wear a nice watch, oh yeah... Might wanna wear an undershirt with that.. Your skin shows through the cloth since the design has slight stripes in it.

I can tell you don't really dress liek that on a regular basis... I've learned to deal with that look since our school makes us dress almost exactly that way for school (we have to wear uniforms here in the Philippines)... But just because we have to wear uniforms, doesn't mean that I can't have the best look.. Leather jacket with that style looks pretty damn cool too man.

I've got an almost exact white shirt for school, but imported from Japan, so the top button area near the collar is straight cut.. It looks pretty good with a fair of faded Jeans from Hollister and a little neclace...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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NeonBase said:
Here us just something you could do to improve on that look bro. If you had style you wouldn't tuck that shirt in, you'd roll up the sleeves or at least roll the cuffs back, you'd get a belt that looked good with your outfit, and you'd prolly unbutton the second button from the top as well, and wear a nice watch, oh yeah... Might wanna wear an undershirt with that.. Your skin shows through the cloth since the design has slight stripes in it.

I can tell you don't really dress liek that on a regular basis... I've learned to deal with that look since our school makes us dress almost exactly that way for school (we have to wear uniforms here in the Philippines)... But just because we have to wear uniforms, doesn't mean that I can't have the best look.. Leather jacket with that style looks pretty damn cool too man.

I've got an almost exact white shirt for school, but imported from Japan, so the top button area near the collar is straight cut.. It looks pretty good with a fair of faded Jeans from Hollister and a little neclace...
To be honest with you, I do dress like that on a regular basis. I have a few pairs of dress pants, some dress shoes. Most of my shirts are black, although I've got a baby blue, maroon and a purple one. This was a quick picture. I do normally wear undershirts due to the fact that you can see my skin through that shirt. Also, I like the tucked in look. When my shirts are untucked they hang too low for my tastes. I'll admit though, I could use a better looking belt.

I'll have to take some pictures of the rest of my slowly growing dressy wardrop for you guys as soon as I get some new batteries for the camera.
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
To be honest with you, I do dress like that on a regular basis. I have a few pairs of dress pants, some dress shoes. Most of my shirts are black, although I've got a baby blue, maroon and a purple one. This was a quick picture. I do normally wear undershirts due to the fact that you can see my skin through that shirt. Also, I like the tucked in look. When my shirts are untucked they hang too low for my tastes. I'll admit though, I could use a better looking belt.

I'll have to take some pictures of the rest of my slowly growing dressy wardrop for you guys as soon as I get some new batteries for the camera.
Hey bro.. Good stuff.. Hey thanks for not being like a lot of guys on here, that when you try to give them advice they take offense and get pissed off..

Since my school makes us wear uniforms, sometimes I get tired of wearing them so I make some changes.. like wear a jacket over it or whatever..

http://myspace-266.vo.llnwd.net/00789/66/29/789119266_l.jpg

That's me and these are some of my pics:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=14633363

As you can see, a couple of the pics are of me in school uniform.. lol

But yeah, mess around with your style.. I wish I could get my ear pierced like you.. But my school/parents won't allow it.. So I can't...
 

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Staz, you are way too big headed, way too stressed out.
Cowhead, while khakis can look cool, jeans look good with pretty much everything.
Neonbase, bright red top, beige trousers? That top has bits of grey on it. Wear black jeans with it.
 

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It appears that some people here arent gettin sh*t. Youre here to help each other, stop trying to take people down so you can feel better about yourselves. Staz is doing his own thing, so be it. Youre not one to tell him hes big headed. Dont be jealous.
 

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rowing_mike said:
Neonbase, bright red top, beige trousers? That top has bits of grey on it. Wear black jeans with it.
Not a big fan of black jeans bro, so I don't own a pair... I usually wear jeans and all white K-Swiss Classics because they go well with anything.. Even red... lol
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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