"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How much do you tell her about yourself

milrenkb

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Personally I make my name something thats hard to come by. However this thread is about me trying to acquire wisdom from the rest of you. So on that note please share how much you tell a girl about yourself in any situation you find relevant...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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There's no cut and dry answer. You need to take into consideration the personality of the woman, your background, the situation, how long you've known each other and a few other things. Although it is a balancing act of telling her enough to allow her to get to know you but just enough that she wants to learn more another time.
 

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Hmmm, well really i only mention my opinions on things or things i've heard, like say if she mentions about where she went on holiday and i've heard of the place i'll say so and motion for her to tell me about it. If she says about an experience she had that was fun i'll mention something similar that happened to a friend of mine, and describe that in great detail. I'll perhaps share little bits about myself, but to be honest i doubt it's more than one minutes worth in an hour.

I always focus on her, the conversation is always steered onto her or her family and friends. Never focused on me if i can help it, and anytime she would ask about me i say as little as i can get away with. I've had years of practice doing that so it doesn't come across as weird... but it annoys the hell out of them, lol. They always end up ready to tell me all their little secrets to hear more about me.

I've always found that weird though, my opinions and views should tell them a lot and yet i always get called mysterious.
 

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This question is a bit to vaige to probably be useful.

In general you should have some fun conversations. Let her ask the questions about you. If she likes you she will.

There are lots of other things to talk about besides yourself.
 

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Good answers so far. However I think I should point out that I'm not looking for a cut and dry answer. I'm very aware that theres more than one way to do things. All I'm trying to do is get a feel for how other guys approach this particular aspect and see if theres anything I can use. No one knows everything, and I'm no exception.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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In any interaction, you want her to do more talking about herself than vice versa. However, you're going to have to be 100% open with her. This does not mean tell her about your life,but you DO have to be 100% open in relating to her and conveying your opinions on a more emotional level.

Why not tell her your name? Who cares? This isn't a chess game, it's a man meeting a woman..
 

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spitkicker said:
In any interaction, you want her to do more talking about herself than vice versa. However, you're going to have to be 100% open with her. This does not mean tell her about your life,but you DO have to be 100% open in relating to her and conveying your opinions on a more emotional level.

Why not tell her your name? Who cares? This isn't a chess game, it's a man meeting a woman..

I have to say I aggree with you on the relating to her aspect you pointed out. As for not telling her my name, I do it in a fun teasing way. I usually tell them my names Ashley and act offended when they laugh. This usually leads to more laughing and by the time the approach is over I'll have bettered my chances of seperating myself from the other guys that might have hit on her that same night.
 

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OK yea, fun and games are cool. I just hate it when guys go overboard with ****y/funny stuff that blatantly screams "I'm insecure and I'm trying to pump attraction by witholding a name, look how good my game is!" If what you're doing is fun for you, getting laughs, and working, im all for it! :)
 

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This iz wut i say, "my names ___,"

her : no i don't mena that lyke wut do u like?"
me: " skinny dipping on the weekends"
her: (laughs) serously!"

i honestly don't kno wut to tell her, i just try to keep it interesting
(i don't like to talk about myself)
 

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you have to learn to like to talk about yourself. She's trying to get you to open up, she's making an effort! You have to reward thsi behavior with a serious, thought provoking answer. Women are attracted to attractive men. Attractive men have passions and interests. This is your time to show it, without sounding full of yourself. Be passionate but not arrogant. There's a difference.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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