"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How much contact....to remain a challenge?

mecca411

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I'm seeing this girl who lives about 2hrs away. We first met about 2 and a half months ago and we see each other about every week and a half to 2 weeks. Things are going great and I wanna keep them that way.

What's the optimum amount of contact to keep her interest level high? By that I mean, how many times a week should I talk to her on the phone/email between the times that I'm actually in her physical presence. And what's the max amount of time I should spend talking to her on the phone? If it was up to her, we'd talk for an hour every time. What would you suggest? Thanks.

M.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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xblitz44x

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Here's an idea. See and talk to her when you want; because you want. If you are bound by rules you are no better off than you were before you found this site. Free yourself completely. No expectations, no limitations, no rules, just what you want, when you want. Have fun.

Interest isn't going to drop because you're talking to her more. That is something that *some* genius made up because they were under the impression that any girl who got to know them for who they REALLY were, would become turned off. So they came up with this "great idea" to just never be yourself in front of a girl, and constantly hide it by being a 'challenge' so that she never finds out how 'ugly' you really are.

I say fvck it.

-Blitz
 

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Originally posted by mecca411
I'm seeing this girl who lives about 2hrs away. We first met about 2 and a half months ago and we see each other about every week and a half to 2 weeks. Things are going great and I wanna keep them that way.

What's the optimum amount of contact to keep her interest level high? By that I mean, how many times a week should I talk to her on the phone/email between the times that I'm actually in her physical presence. And what's the max amount of time I should spend talking to her on the phone? If it was up to her, we'd talk for an hour every time. What would you suggest? Thanks.

M.
How and when you call/email her have absolutely no bearing on a woman's interest level.

If she's really interested in you, none of those things should matter. In fact, none of those things ever do.

Understand that rules like "wait 3 days to call" are just there to give desperate, needy guys time to catch their emotions. Its a way to teach self-control. The rules exist not to influence the woman, but to control the man.

It sounds like in your situation you don't need to be concerned with such things.
 
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