Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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how much cheating are we supposed to tolerate?

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the following are three examples of what girls who had bf's did with me.


Stacy: has a bf of 6 years and still had sex with me.

Britney: has a bf yet spent about half an hour grinding heavily with me at a party.

Sandra: has a bf and a daughter. we were at a waterpark and I was about to dunk her in a pool. She stopped me from doing that by wrapping her legs around my waist. we stood there for what seemed like 15 to 20 seconds with her legs wrapped around me. it looked like we were having standing up sex or dryhumping or something.


It has been a while since these incidences happened. All these girls are still with the same bf's. So my questions are:

Do you think these incidences fall under the category of cheating?

if you were their bf's would you have been upset with them if they did this with other guys?

Are we supposed to expect our GF's to dryhump other dudes when we are not looking? And are we supposed to be okay with it?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ideally none of those. But if she did, then that wouldn't be the only thing you have to worry about.

An unloyal girlfriend is the same as an unnappreciative or unnaffectionate girlfriend. They all happen at once. You know in your gut when your girl doesnt love you the same anymore. Interest level is the be all and end all. Thats why you cant have a fear of your girlfriend flirting with others, her love for you is your security. If the relationship is perfect, then she will be faithful. But once it goes bad, it all goes down at once.

Life is tough and **** happens. Being able to get new girls when necessery goes far in life. You lose out only if you dont dump a girl who isnt treating you how you want. Or, if you cant get a new one, also bad.

The first boyfriend is a chump. Second boyfriend probably doesnt know her girl is a slut. Sandra sounds innocent, maybe just liked the attention.
 

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No, your not supposed to tolerate any of that. No cheating, even emotional cheating. If a girl cheated on me she'd find her ass on the curb. However, lots of guy are desperate and would put up with it if it meant they had a gf. And lots of girls are VERY good at hiding cheating. I've discovered that at least 80% of girls in relationships cheat. But that doesn't mean that you have to put up with that ****.
 

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All are examples of cheating. All are deal breakers to me, and should be to their bf's if they knew about it. Someone on here once said that just as many women cheat as men, but women are better at hiding it. I personally think females cheat more. Reason? It inflates their ego more AND, their imaginary sense of self worth.
 

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5string said:
All are examples of cheating. All are deal breakers to me, and should be to their bf's if they knew about it. Someone on here once said that just as many women cheat as men, but women are better at hiding it. I personally think females cheat more. Reason? It inflates their ego more AND, their imaginary sense of self worth.
oh, women cheat way more. They are just experts at hiding infidelity. But then again, to them it's not cheating because it wasn't their fault, it "just happened", lol.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Scion said:
oh, women cheat way more. They are just experts at hiding infidelity. But then again, to them it's not cheating because it wasn't their fault, it "just happened", lol.
So true Scion. So true. You get it bigtime :up:
 

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I'm friends with this girl that is totally into her guy.
She moved to another country far away (to live with him) and put her life on hold for him while he finishes school.

I witnessed her making out with a random dude at a club.

dirty dancing and more making out with other dude at another club on another night.

For her its ok to do this (her bf doesn't know) as long as she draws the line and doesn't fvck the random dudes.

when I told her about my girlfriend cheating on me, she was disgusted.


What I learned is, no matter how secure a relationship you think you might have, a woman under certain conditions will still play around. How far they take it *might* depend on how attached they are to you.

for this, nothing surprises me anymore.
 

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Ease said:
her love for you is your security. If the relationship is perfect, then she will be faithful.
you said it perfectly Ease. and It will require effort to reach that perfect relationship.

From here, becoming a DJ seems like a piece of cake when comparing it to creating a perfect relationship with a faithful/loyal woman.
 

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scorpio1138 said:
for this, nothing surprises me anymore.

EXACTLY.

this makes me think of one of my questions: Are we supposed to expect our GF's to dryhump other dudes when we are not looking? Do a majority of my potential gf's let other guys feel them up when we are supposed to be exclusive and expect me to turn my back and let it slide?
 

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Tolerate cheating? What a dumb question. You tolerate none. I will dump a chic I'm dating if she texts another man within my peripheral vision.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Scion said:
No, your not supposed to tolerate any of that. No cheating, even emotional cheating. If a girl cheated on me she'd find her ass on the curb.
Right, I do think we should have a zero tolerance policy towards cheating
 

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Bluntmaster said:
Tolerate cheating? What a dumb question.
Right, it sounds dumb. but i've seen so many girls cheat that I can't help but think that guys who can land a smoking hot gf, are completely incompetent in keeping them loyal.

Cheating happens so often that it seems like we ALLOW it to happen, giving them permission to cheat.
 

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Right, it sounds dumb. but i've seen so many girls cheat that I can't help but think that guys who can land a smoking hot gf, are completely incompetent in keeping them loyal.

Cheating happens so often that it seems like we ALLOW it to happen, giving them permission to cheat.
That's because these days girls think just because they give us the cookie they can get away with whatever they want. It's time to change those ways.
 

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Those situations would all be deal breakers for me if I found out about them.
 

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Dust 2 Dust said:
Those situations would all be deal breakers for me if I found out about them.
Ditto. Pity the other guys, and don't ever trust these low quality *****s.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dust 2 Dust said:
Those situations would all be deal breakers for me if I found out about them.
In real life situations, this is where the problem is. Sure on these boards, when presented with hypotheticals everybody will say "no tolerance for cheating!" or "dump the cvnt", etc... But in real life you rarely see your girl cheating, it's usually hearsay and indirect hints (sms, emails, etc..).

So the question becomes: when put in front of hard evidence of your girl cheating, how do you react? I bet a lot of the guys here who are desperately seeking a girlfriend will rather close their eyes than dump her.
 

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If every guy had a zero cheating policy there wouldn't be any couples left. We are naive to think women don't engage in cyber or physical affairs behind our backs. How far they go we don't know until we catch them in the act. Hey, us guys do it all the time.
 

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OldbutSTRONG said:
If every guy had a zero cheating policy there wouldn't be any couples left. We are naive to think women don't engage in cyber or physical affairs behind our backs. How far they go we don't know until we catch them in the act. Hey, us guys do it all the time.

Very true. That's the point made in the movie "Eyes Wide Shut"
 

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OldbutSTRONG said:
If every guy had a zero cheating policy there wouldn't be any couples left. We are naive to think women don't engage in cyber or physical affairs behind our backs. How far they go we don't know until we catch them in the act. Hey, us guys do it all the time.
"If everybody is doing it then it must be OK".

No, it's not.
 

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Cheating starts long before the zippers come down-
Cheating exists along a continuum and begins when one person in a relationship turns OUTSIDE the primary relationship to a third party for an emotional connection or a light sexual involvement.

At the mild end it often involves flirting or physical touching of the 'target' to trigger interest .
The cheater's intention is to have their ego stroked by pretending to offer the possibility of a sexual involvement.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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