saturnalia
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so everybody had sex with hundreds of women here?
yeah, right :moon:
yeah, right :moon:
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I know what you are saying, but sadly it is different for a guy. Don't ever expect to compete with females for number of lays.Dryden said:I believe someone who is really confident it wouldn't be hard to fvck a new girl every week. I got a female friend in her 50s who was fvcking a new guy every week some time ago, I don't see why it would have to be different for a guy.
Why don't you make yourself useful and go through the threads and find an average.saturnalia said:so everybody had sex with hundreds of women here?
yeah, right :moon:
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
saturnalia said:so everybody had sex with hundreds of women here?
yeah, right :moon:
This is true.Zarky said:These threads are about as useful as a thread asking guys what their d*ck-size is. A few guys would be honest, most guys would exaggerate, some would blatantly lie, some would troll. In the end there would be no way to tell who was honest and who was exaggerating and by how much.
That's why I say: self-reported sexual statistics are utterly worthless to analyze or discuss.
That one in particular was an internet meme joke.Kawai said:I can't verify anyone else's numbers on here, and I'd guess that 9k is pretty high, but I'll applaud if it's real. My number is retarded and quite honestly I was a retard for letting it get that high, and lucky I didn't end up with something far more consequential from a health standpoint.
I think you summed it up nicely. You have to take the good with the bad going for high numbers. Not every one (in fact not many) will be quality in either looks or personality. Sometimes you'll get one or the other, sometimes none, and sometimes all. LTRs were always higher quality on looks but unfortunately not on personality.Plutoman said:That one in particular was an internet meme joke.
Just sayin'.
However, I could easily see triple digits if someone sets their mind to it. Over my christmas break, I had chances at 9-10 total, but my inexperience typically blew it in some way, or alcohol, or I was beaten out by men that were 10-20 years older with plenty of money, that'd been frequenting the bars for years.
One every 1-2 months is an entirely reasonable number for someone who puts a bit of time into it, and that's without online dating. That's only considering night game, too.
Throw in daygame & online dating, have a steady job and good looks, solid experience with women, and triple digits is certainly a reasonable amount. Lower your standards to include 4's and 5's and you'll go very far indeed.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
bukowski_merit said:I have had (what I consider to be) the truest form of love I'll ever know though. And I'm more happy with that experience than any of the randoms I've banged over the years.
The thing is though, most average schmucks CAN'T bang that skank, otherwise the lifetime average would be a lot higher.Night-hawk said:...but not drooling over how mighty you are for banging some skank another average shmuck could.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.