"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
how many women are hors?
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Predictable response Kev.00Kevin said:
But yah, I would, I'd say that all the guys who vote over 50% of women are hors on your poll are gay.
I'm really not trying to be mean.
Really if you're gay, thats cool. To the guys who hate women (and not not accusing you of this Kev), you'll really be much happier if you just came out.
JJ.
Yeah, the next come back is "well you know all about that don't you JJ?" Good one!
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Possibly one or more.00Kevin said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
KingBeef
Master Don Juan
yes, i'd sure like a hor right now....hors d” oeuvre that is!!! :crackup: :crackup:00Kevin said:
Does someone need to read "hooked on phonics??"
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Haha, always thinking about food, Mr BEEF?KingBeef said::crackup:
yes, i'd sure like a hor right now....hors d” oeuvre that is!!! :crackup: :crackup:
Does someone need to read "hooked on phonics??"
I didn't vote 100% BTW, it was someone else - damn, there is someone else calling out hors more than me?
nonchalant
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
There's the kind you marry and the kind you just f***. The former not only aren't offended you dont want to marry them, they don't want to marry you anyway. Regardless, learn to tell the difference, and you can have the best of both worlds.
There's the kind you marry and the kind you just f***. The former not only aren't offended you dont want to marry them, they don't want to marry you anyway. Regardless, learn to tell the difference, and you can have the best of both worlds.
See? This guy knows how to roll.
PRMoon
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So lets not get so hung up on how people are, but rather what then can be.
Somebody told me that a while ago but frankly good or bad, it's all the same to me. As long as there are promiscuous people about enjoying the nightlife and AFC's and Players alike paying to get in their pants, I'll continue to rake in the dough.
And they all lived happily ever after.
So lets not get so hung up on how people are, but rather what then can be.
Somebody told me that a while ago but frankly good or bad, it's all the same to me. As long as there are promiscuous people about enjoying the nightlife and AFC's and Players alike paying to get in their pants, I'll continue to rake in the dough.
And they all lived happily ever after.
Not true at all. If men have equal opportunity to do the same then website's such as these would be non-existant. I can go soooooo in depth as to how men and women are nowhere near to being equal in those terms but I'm not going to do that. As far as hors are concerned... hors are abomination. "Hor" goes beyond just being a label. It's what they are deep down behind their mask of innocence. Look beyond just being a label. A hor is a hor and nothing more than a hor. They turn themselves into hors, no one makes them do it. Men just take what they can. And another thing.... hors never change! The only thing that changes is that they begin to age and as they age their looks go to sh!t therefore they are no longer attractive to hor around and thats where the AFC comes in. To take the hor and cherish what other mac daddies before him already had a taste of. Get your head out of the hor matrix guy!
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Look at the gay community. They don't have sites like this. Why? Because they still have the male sex drive. They simply post things like, "Hey hottie! You are looking f***** hot. Send me a message if you are around town and we can get together." Bang. There it is. That is all they need to do to get some. Aids spread like wildfire because gay guys screw like rabbits. This is how it would be if females had the same attitude as males. Nobody would get anything done. People would be in the middle of the road f****. Clerks would be in the middle of the aisle f***** customers. Waiters would be on tables f***** patrons. It would be total mayhem. I read your posts. You boys would love that.
Hey, how many gay guys do you ever hear about who are trying to lose their virginity? NONE!
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
The problem here is that women want studs but men don't want hors. This really isn't a double standard at all. Women are just using this line as excuse to be a hor.
"if they can do it why can't I?" , is what one girl told me after she fu-cked a different guy each night for an entire week.
PRMoon
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Wow I can't even put into words how wrong and AFC this statement is. And you've been here longer then me? How is that possilble. You're telling me in 5 years you haven't realized that you're as attractive to women as they are to you? You must be kidding me.
So sad. Oh and you know nothing of human nature.
That's it i'm done.
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i am 100% sure u never get laid and you are pissed that girls that u take out and try to symp your way into their pants, they are ****ing other guys and u get upset thinking SHE IS A HOR.........when in reality, ur the dumbazz who isnt with it and doesnt realize its 2007, and girls these days are like guys, they want love, they want excitement, and THEY WANT TO CVM
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.