"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Naughty Ninja

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How many of you feel a lot of posters on So Suave have little to no experience (sex,dating, meeting, interacting, etc) with different chicks let alone hot ones?

To be honest from reading numerous threads and 'advice' on here I'd say not many at all.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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SoldMySoul

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Oh I got plenty of experience in all areas... Dating, sex and relationships... Over 25 years of it I might add!! I am still learning. My main problem I still have is IGNORING red flags when they come up and BOY....they come up a lot! Also, with my experience comes complacency and that leads me into doing the same stupid afc things I did in the past.

This DJ road is a long and tough road. The only regret I ever have about finding sosuave is I over analyze women now. I did in the past somewhat, but now I do it more. I still need to learn how to relax and take things as they come.

Some may disagree, but I still say things have changed for the worst since those 25 years. Woman and technology have added to this change. It is easier to get a date NOW, generally...Easier to contact someone now...Easier to screw $hit up now. I will say women used to appreciate dating. Seems now they expect it, rather than appreciate.
 

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SoldMySoul said:
That leads me into doing the same stupid afc things I did in the past.
A big part of this is that you're dating a girl who has already left you in her mind (and who is likely already sleeping with someone else) and then no matter what you do she responds in a negative way, and that naturally brings out or is later perceived as AFC behavior, and her interest hits rock bottom during what seems like just one disagreement.

Women do the same thing when we dump them. I think it's just human nature to act average and frustrated during rejection, but there is probably little you could do by acting confident at that moment.

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Easier to contact someone now...Easier to screw $hit up now.
Very true. Dating has moved toward quantity versus quality.
 

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bigneil said:
A big part of this is that you're dating a girl who has already left you in her mind (and who is likely already sleeping with someone else) and then no matter what you do she responds in a negative way, and that naturally brings out or is later perceived as AFC behavior, and her interest hits rock bottom during what seems like just one disagreement.

Women do the same thing when we dump them. I think it's just human nature to act average and frustrated during rejection, but there is probably little you could do by acting confident at that moment.


Very true. Dating has moved toward quantity versus quality.
I would say that I am no bigger an afc or less of one than anyone else. I have had stellar moments dating and pulled off things like a true champ that I am and of course I have done stupid things. Currently I seem to be in a huge slump. Trying to crawl out of this hole has been tough. Still getting over a bad break up with ex fiancee' a few months ago. So in essence rebuilding the ole self esteem.. Seems once I start getting back on the good road, I get hit by something that puts me on the bad road again.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I do feel that, that is why I look for the replies from ''big guys'' who I think are masterminds compared to me and time and time again their posts seem to me as '' the right thing '' .
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
How many of you feel a lot of posters on So Suave have little to no experience (sex,dating, meeting, interacting, etc) with different chicks let alone hot ones?

To be honest from reading numerous threads and 'advice' on here I'd say not many at all.
Preposterous! I myself have slept with at least two women! I am an expert!
 

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loveshogun said:
Preposterous! I myself have slept with at least two women! I am an expert!

"I was wiping my ass the other day and my finger broke through the toilet paper...does that make me gay? Help!"

Seriously..It's not even dudes asking for advice...it's a lot of the advice given. I'm thinking "This Mofo is talking straight out of his ass."
 

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My dad told me this: you can have experience in many fields but a women is a field you just need to take it step by step because its never end , LOL
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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