“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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What’s your guys’ quality of life so far? And how much do you both sleep?

Lucky ass. My sisters don’t even know how to cook or do their own laundry. My brother and I do though which makes no sense because we’re guys. Shoot, my older sister is bullimic. She’ll eat food that I bought for myself and then barf it out. Then she’ll get mad at me for getting mad at her. Makes me want to lose my humanity towards her.
Rant aside, how much sleep do you get? Are you happy with your life overall?
Well for starters, you'd be surprised how fast people can learn to do something when you tell them that you'll pay them to do it. :p Jokes aside my sister is great, has a good head on her shoulders and is wise for her age.

I am 23 now, and I get about anywhere from 3-5 (6 if I am extremely tired) hours of sleep per night. I am a terrible sleeper and it is something that I have to get better at, but old habits die hard, I suppose. I will, however, have an hour nap after work if I don't have to meet a client or run around afterward. Look up polyphasic sleeping if you are looking for a different approach to sleeping ( I just do it because I dont get enough sleep at night)

To answer your question about happiness I would say yes. I am a recent University graduate who runs a bookkeeping/ business consulting business and works full time. At my age, I would say that's pretty good, but I also understand that I can always do more and be better. Growing up, my family didn't have much, didn't really know anybody, didn't have connections or just knowhow in general. The most rewarding thing about starting and operating your own business, in my opinion, is that I am able to be an example for and help my younger siblings.

Going through school, I just knew all along that that's what I wanted to do, and that was the why. I didn't expect it to materialize and blow up as fast as it did, but it has and it can get overwhelming sometimes. To be in a position where I am able to compensate others for services rendered is extremely rewarding, especially family members.

Regarding women, I am very picky as to who I go out with and whatnot. A date is a date, short, concise, (not these all day escapades, where you watch a girl shop for stuff she isn't going buy all day). In general, I think after a certain point you are going to lose out something or another, (the classic work <--> life opportunity cost thing) but I think if you outsource most of the stuff you don't enjoy doing or things that you think are a waste of time but are necessary, I think you would be surprised how much you can accomplish in one weeks time.

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As to your question @ImTheDoubleGreatest! I started off just like you are now. I was pre-med, planning to be an orthopedic surgeon. I studied hard and got a degree in Biology with a pre-med track at a major state university. Because I was at the same time discovering dating and my SMV value (high) at the same time, I got distracted along the way (and had a blast in college). At one point I was in an engineering calculus section (calculus was required for pre-med) and I didn't get it and wasn't doing well at all. I forgot to drop the class by the deadline. Forgot. Maybe I was hungover that day, who knows but I didn't drop the class...and got an "F".

Now folks, few things screw up a GPA like an F. Never mind that I got a "B" in the class the very next semester. There was no convincing my academic dean to expunge the F. So my GPA went from a high 3.+ to a 2.5 or so. Pulling up a GPA is no easy feat. I got it back up to a 2.99 by graduation but this was one of my mulligans. I had effectively eliminated myself from getting into med school in the US without additional school. Awesome (NOT).

Along the way however, because I was very social and knew tons of people through Greek life, student government, and various leadership & volunteer roles I met tons of people at university as well as in the greater community. One of the families I got to know had a patriarch who was a renowned physician and a department chair at the medical school. I was doing self directed independent research in the Biology department trying to figure out what direction to go in after graduation. I liked research and told him so sitting by his pool while his kids and all my friends were playing water polo one afternoon during my senior year. So this doctor said to me that if I liked research I should call him. His department did various sorts of research. Two months later I did in fact call him. I came in & was interviewed and offered an internship in clinical research. I ended up going full time the Monday after I graduated and worked there for 6 years. That doctor was a global thought leader in his field. What an enormous privilege to work for him & with him. I STILL run into people who revere that man in my field, some 25 years later. I too still revere him. So yes, my social contacts and WHO I knew helped. Even though I had screwed up my grades a bit. And in those years I didn't make squat but the experience I gained was the springboard to where I am now.

I went from academia into industry and from industry into consulting for industry. Along the way I went back to graduate school (where I made a 4.0) and did get accepted after all to medical school. But 3 days before I was to leave for med school I had an epiphany. Medicine was changing 20 years ago. I knew too many doctors whose practices ran them, who had little free time, six figures of debt, and no freedom to go with the high income. They had spouses with enviable lives but they worked like dogs. That gave me pause. So I stayed in industry and gave up medical school. Looking at medicine in the US now I have never once regretted that decision. Private practices are falling away and only the big conglomerates (hospitals, academia and insurers) remain. Patients are seen as dollar signs and income streams by corporate medicine. I've seen friends get mowed over by the changes in healthcare. It's sad honestly.

I have well developed social acumen in addition to deep knowledge in my field. I currently take on clients to help them optimize their resources, staffing, and projects as well as serve as a liaison between industry and the medical community at an executive level. Not bad for a blond chick with a bachelor's degree who happens to be ambitious.

Now if money is what you are most interested in then the years and the dollars to pursue medicine may not be worth it. I hate to say it but being a physician is not what it was in my grandfather's day (he was a private practice doctor) from a financial standpoint. In addition it carries great risks of liability and insurance premiums (you do not want to know what mal-practive premiums run for your typical obstetrician or anesthesiologist.) Add to that the fact that most physicians any more are employees in corporate medicine in America, and that trend is only going to change if corporate medicine is barred from fleecing the taxpayer vis a vis Medicare and Medicaid. God help us if we end up single payer. But I digress.

My son plans to go through pilot training in the military and is expecting to attend one of the military academies. Pilots are not allowed to fly past 65 (I think) in industry and many of the Vietnam era guys are at or very near retirement age. That means there is a big draw by industry for military pilots and for private pilots as well. The trades are full of opportunity. Plumbers and electricians can make great money, as can specialized welders and other of the building trades. There is money in roofing, in contracting, in mechanical engineering fields.

I personally think the American education system has done a tremendous disservice by underfunding vocational programs. Not everybody needs a bachelor's degree. There ought to be more focus on things besides going into crazy debt to get a degree in English literature or sociology or some other liberal art that isn't going to create jobs or a business or employ people.

I mean somebody has to teach and all but there are way too many baristas at Starbucks with a degree in women's studies or some other discipline that doesn't translate into supporting oneself.

If I had it to do over again I don't know that I'd change much. I might get into being a sports agent or something like that where I could leverage my people skills more than I do now. Financial professionals can do very well but I was never that crazy about math. I do enjoy real estate, but it's simple for me to understand. Buy low, hold indefinitely to cash flow and sell high if ever. Maintain properties and provide excellent customer service. Watch the bottom line. There is always the oilfield too. I have a friend and colleague whose son started off to earn a degree in architecture. He hated school, just wanted to make money. He started off in the oilfield at 19 and has done very well. He is now 22 or 23 and moved into the service industry where he earns about 40K as the GM of a Chili's type chain restaurant.

Then there's my friend in Vegas who makes as much money as I do (300K +) running a 25M restaurant on the strip. He is the most intelligent person I know and has people skills that would run circles around Dale Carnegie. He is a college drop out. So was Michael Dell. Ross Perot never went to college. I'm not sure he finished high school. But all these people have ambition in spades.

Whatever you do, do not allow your ambition to be stifled. If you want to make it bad enough you can make it. The how has more to do with you individually. And you need a why, you need a big desire, a big dream. If you have ambition you'll find a way. It's what ambitious people do.
 
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As to your question @ImTheDoubleGreatest! I started off just like you are now. I was pre-med, planning to be an orthopedic surgeon. I studied hard and got a degree in Biology with a pre-med track at a major state university. Because I was at the same time discovering dating and my SMV value (high) at the same time, I got distracted along the way (and had a blast in college). At one point I was in an engineering calculus section (calculus was required for pre-med) and I didn't get it and wasn't doing well at all. I forgot to drop the class by the deadline. Forgot. Maybe I was hungover that day, who knows but I didn't drop the class...and got an "F".

Now folks, few things screw up a GPA like an F. Never mind that I got a "B" in the class the very next semester. There was no convincing my academic dean to expunge the F. So my GPA went from a high 3.+ to a 2.5 or so. Pulling up a GPA is no easy feat. I got it back up to a 2.99 by graduation but this was one of my mulligans. I had effectively eliminated myself from getting into med school in the US without additional school. Awesome (NOT).

Along the way however, because I was very social and knew tons of people through Greek life, student government, and various leadership & volunteer roles I met tons of people at university as well as in the greater community. One of the families I got to know had a patriarch who was a renowned physician and a department chair at the medical school. I was doing self directed independent research in the Biology department trying to figure out what direction to go in after graduation. I liked research and told him so sitting by his pool while his kids and all my friends were playing water polo one afternoon during my senior year. So this doctor said to me that if I liked research I should call him. His department did various sorts of research. Two months later I did in fact call him. I came in & was interviewed and offered an internship in clinical research. I ended up going full time the Monday after I graduated and worked there for 6 years. That doctor was a global thought leader in his field. What an enormous privilege to work for him & with him. I STILL run into people who revere that man in my field, some 25 years later. I too still revere him. So yes, my social contacts and WHO I knew helped. Even though I had screwed up my grades a bit. And in those years I didn't make squat but the experience I gained was the springboard to where I am now.

I went from academia into industry and from industry into consulting for industry. Along the way I went back to graduate school (where I made a 4.0) and did get accepted after all to medical school. But 3 days before I was to leave for med school I had an epiphany. Medicine was changing 20 years ago. I knew too many doctors whose practices ran them, who had little free time, six figures of debt, and no freedom to go with the high income. They had spouses with enviable lives but they worked like dogs. That gave me pause. So I stayed in industry and gave up medical school. Looking at medicine in the US now I have never once regretted that decision. Private practices are falling away and only the big conglomerates (hospitals, academia and insurers) remain. Patients are seen as dollar signs and income streams by corporate medicine. I've seen friends get mowed over by the changes in healthcare. It's sad honestly.

I have well developed social acumen in addition to deep knowledge in my field. I currently take on clients to help them optimize their resources, staffing, and projects as well as serve as a liaison between industry and the medical community at an executive level. Not bad for a blond chick with a bachelor's degree who happens to be ambitious.

Now if money is what you are most interested in then the years and the dollars to pursue medicine may not be worth it. I hate to say it but being a physician is not what it was in my grandfather's day (he was a private practice doctor) from a financial standpoint. In addition it carries great risks of liability and insurance premiums (you do not want to know what mal-practive premiums run for your typical obstetrician or anesthesiologist.) Add to that the fact that most physicians any more are employees in corporate medicine in America, and that trend is only going to change if corporate medicine is barred from fleecing the taxpayer vis a vis Medicare and Medicaid. God help us if we end up single payer. But I digress.

My son plans to go through pilot training in the military and is expecting to attend one of the military academies. Pilots are not allowed to fly past 65 (I think) in industry and many of the Vietnam era guys are at or very near retirement age. That means there is a big draw by industry for military pilots and for private pilots as well. The trades are full of opportunity. Plumbers and electricians can make great money, as can specialized welders and other of the building trades. There is money in roofing, in contracting, in mechanical engineering fields.

I personally think the American education system has done a tremendous disservice by underfunding vocational programs. Not everybody needs a bachelor's degree. There ought to be more focus on things besides going into crazy debt to get a degree in English literature or sociology or some other liberal art that isn't going to create jobs or a business or employ people.

I mean somebody has to teach and all but there are way too many baristas at Starbucks with a degree in women's studies or some other discipline that doesn't translate into supporting oneself.

If I had it to do over again I don't know that I'd change much. I might get into being a sports agent or something like that where I could leverage my people skills more than I do now. Financial professionals can do very well but I was never that crazy about math. I do enjoy real estate, but it's simple for me to understand. Buy low, hold indefinitely to cash flow and sell high if ever. Maintain properties and provide excellent customer service. Watch the bottom line. There is always the oilfield too. I have a friend and colleague whose son started off to earn a degree in architecture. He hated school, just wanted to make money. He started off in the oilfield at 19 and has done very well. He is now 22 or 23 and moved into the service industry where he earns about 40K as the GM of a Chili's type chain restaurant.

Then there's my friend in Vegas who makes as much money as I do (300K +) running a 25M restaurant on the strip. He is the most intelligent person I know and has people skills that would run circles around Dale Carnegie. He is a college drop out. So was Michael Dell. Ross Perot never went to college. I'm not sure he finished high school. But all these people have ambition in spades.

Whatever you do, do not allow your ambition to be stifled. If you want to make it bad enough you can make it. The how has more to do with you individually. And you need a why, you need a big desire, a big dream. If you have ambition you'll find a way. It's what ambitious people do.
That's the least impressive life story I've ever heard.

Please, tell us again how "high" your value is. Since you feel the need to repeat it over and over, it MUST be true!
 

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That's the least impressive life story I've ever heard.

Please, tell us again how "high" your value is. Since you feel the need to repeat it over and over, it MUST be true!
Perfect. My point is and has always has been that if I can do it anybody can. I'm a millionaire with that unimpressive life story.

So what's your excuse again?
 

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That's the least impressive life story I've ever heard.

Please, tell us again how "high" your value is. Since you feel the need to repeat it over and over, it MUST be true!
I were a woman and had enough guys talk to me like this^^, I would start to hate all men and become a lesbian. Jesus Christ.
 

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I were a woman and had enough guys talk to me like this^^, I would start to hate all men and become a lesbian. Jesus Christ.
It's all good. ITDG asked me a question & I explained for his benefit.

I learned long ago in life not to let flak bother me. This is a men's forum. I know that. So it's a comment/share at my own risk environment to a degree.

I adore men & really enjoy them. As to the tomato throwers? Par for the course and no worries at all :up:
 

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What’s your guys’ quality of life so far? And how much do you both sleep?
Quality of life is great .. 2 weeks out at sea then I can travel anywhere for my week off .. my weeks off in Indonesia mainly consist of surfing everyday, exploring, cheap massages and alot of girls.

Out at work I sleep from 10pm - 5am .. I don't think I could go back to a Mon-Fri job.
 

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I am retired and work 0.00 hours a week,my time is spent reading,exercising,traveling,relaxing....oh bye the way I am only 46 (eat your hearts out) :p
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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What’s your guys’ quality of life so far? And how much do you both sleep?
I would say good. I would love to have more money, but I spent too much time fvcking around at a dead end job while I took my time in school. I am finally making up for it now. I live in the Bay Area in a modest apartment, drive a 2005 Toyota 4Runner, and have two kids, so that definitely complicates matters. Just for perspective, my two-bedroom is $1,800, which is cheap in the Bay Area. I also spend about 1k a month on childcare. I wouldn't say I make great money, but I am comfortable. I can do what I want, when I want within reason.

Also I live pretty simply. No TV service, just Prime and my ladies Netflix account. I cook a lot, so eat mostly at home (you wouldn't believe how much money that saves). I am very meticulous with my spending and always look for better deals, no brand loyalty here. My retirement is at a very good amount for my age (35), I have a couple investment accounts that I haven't touched in a couple years (need to get on that), I have season tickets for Niners and Warriors (for cash flow).

Basically, I save what I can because I love to travel and enjoy nice restaurants. Nice cars, eating out (all the time), and toys are a complete a waste of money to me. I would rather spend it on creating memories.

My goal is to double my income in two years, and save all of it. It is all about developing good spending habits and maintaining them, even when you start doing well.

Oh, and I don't sleep enough, probably around 6-7 hours a night (9-10pm-4am), sometimes later if spending time with the lady.
 

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What’s your guys’ quality of life so far? And how much do you both sleep?

Lucky ass. My sisters don’t even know how to cook or do their own laundry. My brother and I do though which makes no sense because we’re guys. Shoot, my older sister is bullimic. She’ll eat food that I bought for myself and then barf it out. Then she’ll get mad at me for getting mad at her. Makes me want to lose my humanity towards her.
Rant aside, how much sleep do you get? Are you happy with your life overall?

Okay but how did you get STARTED, is what I’m asking. I’m not dead set on one possible occupation. Shoot I’d become a janitor if I got paid a crap ton of money. I have no passion that’s ‘job worthy’. Money is the goal for the sole purpose of allowing me to do what I want and get what I want. If there is an easier way to acquire it without going through 8 years of pointless schooling, hundreds of thousands of dollars, and another half decade of near 80 hour work weeks (sometimes more) for poverty-pay, then then I’d like to know.

And what about who you know? Isn’t that very important too though? The first thing you said above was word of mouth, even before your qualifications. Having been to many different areas, I have met a lot of different people, more so than most for my age, so that may have opened possible doors for me. But at the same time it stopped me from getting real close to anyone which may have closed some as well.

And medical school is almost stupid with how much work you have to put in. Being and actual doctor isn’t NEARLY as hard as college or residency, but it still sucks because by then you’re no longer an actual man. I went to the cardiologist sometime last week because I’m having heart problems, and he said it’s because I’m pushing myself too hard and that I should be happy that I can do what I can since someone like him will tire out so much more easily. I looked at him and thought that this guy is not a man, he can’t actually protect his family, he can’t even protect himself. He is an out of shape 50 or 60 year old who hasn’t done anything fitness related likely since he was around 10. He just takes money from people. He came up with the conclusions that he WANTED to come up with. The only difference between all the doctors I went to and what the Internet says is that a doctor can prescribe you medicine whereas the Internet cannot. But the ‘advice’ a doctor says can be given by a high school student with a computer. It pisses me off. Doctors only know how to take tests better. They aren’t actually smart or good people.

How would you say your overall quality of life is? How much do you sleep on average?
It's a decent quality of life. Will be much better without the commute.

Because I like my job, and it pays well it is something I see as worth it. For now at least, until I get unsatisfied with it.

On weekdays, I sleep 7-8 hours. On weekends it's 9 hours.
 

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Medicine was changing 20 years ago.

Now if money is what you are most interested in then the years and the dollars to pursue medicine may not be worth it. I hate to say it but being a physician is not what it was in my grandfather's day (he was a private practice doctor) from a financial standpoint. In addition it carries great risks of liability and insurance premiums (you do not want to know what mal-practive premiums run for your typical obstetrician or anesthesiologist.) Add to that the fact that most physicians any more are employees in corporate medicine in America, and that trend is only going to change if corporate medicine is barred from fleecing the taxpayer vis a vis Medicare and Medicaid. God help us if we end up single payer. But I digress.
Can you elaborate on these points? My family (from my dad’s side at least) comes from a looong line of doctors, pharmacists, and dentists (pretty much anything medically related). All of my uncles were studying to be doctors (but life happened so they couldn’t). They all are suck ups to money more or less, dad included, and say that you can just go ‘be a doctor and make a lot of money’ like it’s the easiest thing in the world and like there is no work involved. They even said you can just take off if you get tired and go back to it after a while. I know they’re idiots when it comes to more professional type of occupations because they think that medicine works the same way it did 30 years ago. I do have one who was an oncologist several years ago though, and he did say something similar about how much it’s evolving. He’s retired now and very well off, but he countered their ignorant claims by saying that at this point he couldn’t go back even if he wanted to. I’m wondering about what happened since his time until now (70s and 80s).
I personally think the American education system has done a tremendous disservice by underfunding vocational programs. Not everybody needs a bachelor's degree. There ought to be more focus on things besides going into crazy debt to get a degree in English literature or sociology or some other liberal art that isn't going to create jobs or a business or employ people.

I mean somebody has to teach and all but there are way too many baristas at Starbucks with a degree in women's studies or some other discipline that doesn't translate into supporting oneself.
100% true. The education system is ****ed up beyond all recognition in the US. It’s all about sucking up as much money as possible to keep the general population weaker and the elite stronger. That’s why I’m pissed off about all of this and why I’m even asking. It should not be this hard unless I’m striving for WAY above and beyond the normal call of duty.
 

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I know they’re idiots when it comes to more professional type of occupations because they think that medicine works the same way it did 30 years ago. I do have one who was an oncologist several years ago though, and he did say something similar about how much it’s evolving. He’s retired now and very well off, but he countered their ignorant claims by saying that at this point he couldn’t go back even if he wanted to. I’m wondering about what happened since his time until now (70s and 80s).
Medicine is fundamentally different that it was a few decades ago. Many of the more senior physicians have retired like your uncle and gotten the hell out rather than become a highly paid wage slave.

There are several things at play as to why this has happened. It all started in the last century and culminated in the following legislation:

In 1973, Nixon did a personal favor for his friend and campaign financier, Edgar Kaiser, then president and chairman of Kaiser-Permanente. Nixon signed into law, the Health Maintenance Organization Act of 1973, in which medical insurance agencies, hospitals, clinics and even doctors, could begin functioning as for-profit business entities instead of the service organizations they were intended to be. And which insurance company got the first taste of federal subsidies to implement HMOA73 … *gasp* … why, it was Kaiser-Permanente!

Here's the link:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/did-...t-of-1973-passed-by-nixon-changed-everything/

Now companies were motivated to get onto the gravy train but it has taken decades for the law that went into effect in 1973 to fully manifest. Prior to this law most hospitals were not "for profit" and few insurance companies would offer health coverage because it was too great an actuarial risk with too little profit potential. The law changed that. In addition most physicians were actually small business people, entrepreneurs who happened to be in medicine.

Historically the doctors who did surgeries at hospitals, rounded, and took call had privileges in hospitals but were not hospital employees. What this meant was that HMO networks at first had to include private practice doctors because that was who had patient volume. But as organizations like Kaiser and others became more savvy they realized that if they employed the physicians and got into exclusive agreements with insurance companies they could effectively maximize profits by driving the greatest number of patients into the system and reduce what doctors were earning by promising them a steady salary without all the headaches of business ownership and employee management. And it has worked very very well for corporate medicine. And as more patients are required to go to Kaiser and other huge conglomerates there are fewer patients left for private practice doctors (who are more and more OUT of network) to treat and earn a living treating.

It is all about patient volume for corporate medicine, and its ugly. In the past 5 years I'll tell you 2 things I have personally seen happen to personal friends and associates.

One pain management doctor who I know became unhappy with the hospital he worked for. He worked for a large regional healthcare conglomerate in the south. As a courtesy to the hospital he notified the administration that he was going to strike out on his own, set up his own practice and handle whatever things that needed for patient treatment over a 3 month period at the hospital while he made the transition into private practice. His target end date was 90 days out from his notice date. The hospital immediately shut off his access to all their patient systems, fired him, revoked his privileges, walked him out of the hospital and threatened to sue him if he "stole" any patients from them. They threatened to arrest him if he set foot on hospital property. They assert that they OWN the patient database, patient choice be dammed. Very nasty true story. He was naive about the way these things worked and furious, but he was left high and dry without an employer, a good reference or a business. Brutal.

Another doctor I know well, a gastroenterologist, was a well established private practice doctor with 30 years experience and long term patients, some of whom he had treated for various serious chronic conditions for 20+ years. He had a robust private practice and people drove in many instances several hours one way to see this doctor. He has an excellent reputation. A local regional hospital approached him several years ago and pitched him the idea of "buying him out". The pitch was that they would assume the overhead and the administrative responsibilities for his practice, which would remove the headaches of running his business, and they would salary him a generous amount and take a % of his income from his several thousand patient database. Now keep in mind these are chronically ill people who need ongoing care (think ongoing income stream)...this physician called me to chat about the deal they were negotiating.

I told him to be extremely careful, that the hospital would make him whatever promise he wanted to hear and that he needed to read the fine print very very carefully, because if they put a non-compete into the paperwork, they could turn around and fire him and effectively steal all the patients who he had cared for over so many years. He listened to what I said and then exactly what I warned him about happened. He signed a non-compete, worked as a salaried doctor for about a year, and then was fired by the hospital, his practice office shut down, and he was unable (at the risk of a huge lawsuit) to resume seeing his longstanding patients. His patients were devastated. He had to leave the state and now is an attending physician in a neighboring state at an academic teaching hospital. He is very bitter about what happened.

The above scenario has happened to thousands of well meaning private practice doctors. Many, like your uncle have simply retired rather than participate in the new landscape. Or they have gotten out of medicine altogether and found other ways to make a living. Sad.

But that's corporate medicine at work. I am so very glad I am not a cog in that wheel. I remain in the private segment of healthcare. So without major legislative changes to the structure of healthcare in the US this situation cannot improve. And if Congress goes to repeal the HMO law to make healthcare a service and not a profit center anymore? Who do you think is going to lead the charge to demonize Congress for "taking away YOUR health insurance benefits"? Why the big hospitals and insurance companies who stand to lose billions and billions of dollars, that's who. They want a single payer system. Why? Then their profits are locked in at the expense of the (largely clueless) taxpayers. But again I digress.

On your other thread @ImTheDoubleGreatest! you were given a number of suggestions about professions where you can make good money without having to go through the schooling and training and time commitment and debt that medicine requires. I made many of the same suggestions in my lengthy response to you as well. The smartest US students are not going into medicine like they once did because the financial incentive is not there anymore.
Medical schools are responding to this trend by filling spots with more and more international students, and we are already seeing this trend in the number for foreign born physicians now practicing in the US. You see the opportunity to be a US trained doctor still carries an expedited path to US citizenship, and the opportunity as a physician in the US is still far better than the opportunities in India, Pakistan, China, Indonesia and many other places around the world. France has probably the best healthcare system globally. Interestingly you don't see French doctors trying to come to US and set up shop, so they must be fairly happy as a group. Ask your uncle the oncologist about what I've written. Research it yourself.
 
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I used to work 12-14 hour days, seven days a week for five years. These days, maybe 50 hours per week max.

I value pleasure, so I'll employ as much staff as necessary to free up my time.
 

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I groom myself sometimes, but other times I just don't care about trying to impress someone else. That's what it really is, trying to impress others.

I don't work out, I hate doing that. The only reason I would have done it would be to please someone else's superficial ideal, that just doesn't cut it as motivation for me.

When you minimize your expenses trying to impress others you can instead spend it on something that actually makes you happy. People waste their time and sacrifice their happiness in the hunt for sex or love, the actions intended to lead to happiness has then instead lead to stress, anxiety and a feeling of inferiority.

Sleep is extremely important!!! If this lacks then everything else we do trying to better our lives becomes meaningless. It's a direct cause of unhappiness.

I work on average 33.6 hours a week and have plenty of money to live comfortably. Probably isn't comparable since I live in Norway, but still it's possible to be in a bad life situation by having the wrong priorities.

I don't walk out my door every day set on practicing socialization, I don't even think about it. Any natural person doesn't think about how to socialize, that's bizarre. It's just talking, people just do it. It comes back to this stupidity of trying to impress others, why do people think it's such a good idea? People aren't that stupid, they notice when someone tries to impress them and it's awkward. I cringe when I meet such people, it's the exact opposite of cool.

Basically, **** all of that.
You seem a wise man. I'm just thinking, do we not have to try to impress a to a degree though. If I did'nt, I wouldn't bother ironing my shirt, gaining knowledge or applying spray to smell good. Therefore not being attractive = no friends, no partner, no sex. My boss would find someone else to do my job if I didn't give a fu*k!

Maybe we have to impress to make a mark in life?
 

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I have several businesses I manage or partner with... I put in a lot of hours, but I lock in my calendar 8 weeks out... It's the only way to be. Some weeks are crazy, depending on what is going on, some... I'm pacing the floors making work for myself. My typical day starts at 4:30 am. Bike for 1.5 hours (usually 18-20 miles depending on the wind), Yoga from 6:30-7:30 am, working by 8 off by 6 pm. Usually it works out to be 55 hours a week, but I have put in 12 hours days.

I'll date 2-4 times a week. I plan my off time the way I plan my work schedule... I go to what I want and invite women to the events I think they would like and be fun. Very seldom am I out late, I'm usually in bed, with or without company by 10 pm. When I am in town I ALWAYS sleep at home... I never sleep over at a chicks house EVER. I only need 6 hours of sleep a night... but sleep in on Saturday.

Weekends are for my kids... I never mix women with my kids. I NEVER work on weekends.... I plan my time so that sh!t never happens. I'm a pure dad Friday-Sunday.
I'm curious. What businesses are those?
 

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I'm curious. What businesses are those?
My primary gig is engineering and business consulting. But I also have a small software development firm, a business that makes sports related novelty hats, and a revolving loan fund. I am also a minor partner in a short term rental property management company, a company that manufactures New Orleans related food product mixes, a micro brewery, and a German restaurant. I'm also involved in some shape form or fashion with a dozen businesses with loans from the fund. I have a staff of 7 people that work for me, and I hire 1099 contractors as needed for different things that pop up.
 

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You seem a wise man. I'm just thinking, do we not have to try to impress a to a degree though. If I did'nt, I wouldn't bother ironing my shirt, gaining knowledge or applying spray to smell good. Therefore not being attractive = no friends, no partner, no sex. My boss would find someone else to do my job if I didn't give a fu*k!

Maybe we have to impress to make a mark in life?
To a degree, yes. But I'd want to avoid letting it take too much attention. Some people do it as a distraction from their weaknesses. Which is why people who put an excessive amount of time and effort into it make me skeptical of them.

I'm not suggesting you do nothing and look like a bum. Just don't get caught up in it. A few quick and simple things is enough for most situations. Especially when dating I don't go out of my way, I'm not looking to guarantee a lay. I'm looking to find someone who doesn't have an issue with how I usually am. I really would avoid giving a better impression than what I can live up to every day.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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