How many hours a week do you work?

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Oh yeah, I meet people all of the time that might be her family or friends......but once I'm done talking to her, I don't stay in contact with those people. Again, my entire life is just "different" and I'm not telling anybody on here to take my exact outline.

If I had a CHOICE in the matter, my priority list would be the following:

- Family

- Friends and Women I'm Close With

- Health and Fitness related stuff (including mental health and spiritual health)

- Clothing, Residence, Car, and other Personal items/assets related stuff

- Career and Investments related stuff

Yes, "MONEY" related stuff would be at the very bottom because I really wouldn't work as hard as I do now. I would work just enough to not be paycheck-to-paycheck, have money in the bank, and have a nice solid steady income coming in. The vast majority of my time, focus, and life would be with my family, friends, and the women in my life who actually give a damn about me.

But unfortunately, my life didn't turn out that way, so I put "making money" at the top and I involve myself in a variety of different things to keep myself busy. It's why I've said before on here.....you guys want to bash the Blue Pill Guy but it's MUCH BETTER in life to be the Blue Pill Guy than the Red Pill Guy. The Blue Pill Guy (most of them) have real family and friends who care about them, and the women in their life (even if they are somewhat "dirty") still treat the guy with enough care to where he doesn't notice it.

It's us Red Pill Guys that are stuck on the internet doing rant sessions and having to focus on "money and working out" as the NUMBER ONE things in our lives because many of us have a svck-a.ss family situation and a svck-a.ss friends situation.

Maybe that’s why we are red pil and they aren’t. Because we never had people to fall back on when we were down.

Three jobs: on average 40 hours + ~15 hours + ~ 3 hours . The older I get the less I care about women and socializing. When I am not working and taking care of work around the house or seeing my daughter, I like to do things to help better myself be it exercise, study, or whatever. I turn down invitations with friends every week and invitations with the women reaching out to me very regularly. People in general have disappointed me so bad. Other then my daughter I love myself more than anybody else. And I would rather spend my spare time with myself then other people. Maybe this is just a phase. But lately it has been working great for me.

People do suck sometimes. I guess it’s hust a reflection of the current state that scoiety and our culture is in. Do you feel that you are living comfortably or are you just making ends meet?

Norway still has capitalism, but it's more socialistic than the US. I don't think full fledged socialism is a good idea either, it's too vulnerable to corruption. Capitalism and socialism work great as a hybrid if you ask me, they moderate each other.

I think the larger problem for the US in any case is corruption, incompetence and selfishness. Because of this (justified) distrust of the government people there are reluctant to support going in a slightly more socialistic direction.

Being admitted to a hospital here costs nothing, going to the doctor for minor things or checkups costs a small fee though. Education is free all the way through University. That's 2 massive concerns in life we don't have and it would not work with capitalism. Money belonging to the public actually goes back to the public in the form of services. The social safety net here is designed to prevent people from falling out of society, this ultimately strengthens our economy and benefits everyone. This wouldn't be possible with a lot of corruption though.

Well one can always dream I suppose.

 

[ubercat]

On the outside America does look a bit self absorbed. Chinese hackers have stolen over a trillion dollars of American IP. And nobody saw the threat coming because American companies compete with each other. Whereas in China every company is connected to the government. If they weren't they couldn't survive.

 

[skinnyguy]

I work 60 hours a week. Gym 6 hours a week. I wish I spent more time socializing. It's fun and takes my mind off work.

 

[Tenacity]

Maybe that’s why we are red pil and they aren’t. Because we never had people to fall back on when we were down..

Lol, exactly. Being Red Pill usually comes with a Plus and Minus side.

Plus Side: You become more of a critical thinker, which helps you learn how various systems work (not just with women, but with politics, with money, with banking, with the career market, etc.) so that if you choose to do so....you can utilize this knowledge for your advantage.

Minus Side: While not in 100% of cases, but in MOST cases, you became Red Pill because you were in some ways isolated from "general/normal" society in the first place. That isolation caused you to be alone more than most people, which then inspired you to start researching, learning, and acquiring the various forms of knowledge that you have. But despite acquiring said knowledge, you are likely to still be somewhat isolated from "general/normal" society and said isolation DOES NOT mean that you are doing anything "wrong".

* For example, 80% of "general/normal society" lives paycheck-to-paycheck and struggles with basic financial management. By YOU having a good net worth, good cashflow, and NOT living paycheck-to-paycheck....that right there makes you different (or isolated) from "general/normal" society.

* For example, 70% of "general/normal society" are either overweight or obese. So by YOU working out, staying fit, and staying in good shape.....that right there makes you different (or isolated) from "general/normal" society.

I always knew growing up that I was different. It wasn't until I got into my mid-20's that I truly realized that me being "different" was actually a GOOD THING, because "general/normal" society has become completely fvcked up. But being different can be lonely, because when everybody is together in the "fvcked up pile" and you are alone standing in the "everything is going great pile", that can get pretty lonely.

 

[sosousage]

Lol, exactly. Being Red Pill usually comes with a Plus and Minus side.

Plus Side: You become more of a critical thinker, which helps you learn how various systems work (not just with women, but with politics, with money, with banking, with the career market, etc.) so that if you choose to do so....you can utilize this knowledge for your advantage.

Minus Side: While not in 100% of cases, but in MOST cases, you became Red Pill because you were in some ways isolated from "general/normal" society in the first place. That isolation caused you to be alone more than most people, which then inspired you to start researching, learning, and acquiring the various forms of knowledge that you have. But despite acquiring said knowledge, you are likely to still be somewhat isolated from "general/normal" society and said isolation DOES NOT mean that you are doing anything "wrong".

* For example, 80% of "general/normal society" lives paycheck-to-paycheck and struggles with basic financial management. By YOU having a good net worth, good cashflow, and NOT living paycheck-to-paycheck....that right there makes you different (or isolated) from "general/normal" society.

* For example, 70% of "general/normal society" are either overweight or obese. So by YOU working out, staying fit, and staying in good shape.....that right there makes you different (or isolated) from "general/normal" society.

I always knew growing up that I was different. It wasn't until I got into my mid-20's that I truly realized that me being "different" was actually a GOOD THING, because "general/normal" society has become completely fvcked up. But being different can be lonely, because when everybody is together in the "fvcked up pile" and you are alone standing in the "everything is going great pile", that can get pretty lonely.

Why be lonely when there are a lot of white girls..

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I work 60 hours a week. Gym 6 hours a week. I wish I spent more time socializing. It's fun and takes my mind off work.

Do you make enough tobwhere you feel that you’re living comfortably? And how many days a week do you lift?

 

[skinnyguy]

Do you make enough tobwhere you feel that you’re living comfortably? And how many days a week do you lift?

Yeah I live pretty comfortable and I travel whenever I feel like it. I lift 3-4 times per week

 

[BeExcellent]

I work about 90 hours a month, occasionally closer to 100 hours if the real estate businesses need more attention.

Half the month I work a 35-40 hour week in one area as an executive in healthcare. I have plenty of time for social activities and working out & friends, the other half of the month I'm working a la Tim Ferris in 4 Hour Workweek (remote from home on my schedule for maybe 4-5 hours a week). In the remote setting I spend the majority of time with kids & doing family stuff, but there is plenty of time to work out, sleep in, nap, do what I want.

I'm good enough at what I do that my client agreed to this part time arrangement, which pays six figures. My real estate businesses also create a six figure income so I am able to buy/do/provide whatever I want within reason & I can take care of whatever my kids need, like braces, which they all have right now.

Three kids at 6K per kid in braces is 18K. No problem. I can afford it. Ditto music lessons, lacrosse equipment, vacations a couple times a year, etc.

If I want to go to a pro sporting event & take the children I can. If I want to eat out somewhere very expensive with friends or family I can. If I want a piece of art or a piece of jewelry I can buy it. If I want a piece of real estate I can swing it. It's a comfortable place to be. I have time to really think about & plan my next moves in life without financial stressors. It's a nice place to be & it's the result of very hard work & striving to be the best at what I do.

More important than how much one works I think is the quality of life one expects to enjoy. I have purposefully set my life up in such a way as to maximize income & enjoyment but minimize time required at work. My goal is to work even less while earning even more. My friends and men I go out with notice the way my life is structured and find it impressive. But it's the result of intent. It is no accident.

I decided in my first job out of college that I hate having to be somewhere to work at 8am. I'd much rather get up at my leisure & sleep in more. So I adjusted my career to fit greater independence and autonomy.

Currently I'm in an office setting part time for the first time in 20 years and I'm bored with it frankly. It's too much time commitment for me when I can be more effective in less time & still have a (+) impact on the organization.

I hate dealing with pettiness and small mindedness, and in managing people this is much of the job responsibilities (and why I have studiously avoided management to this point), but it's the natural expected progression of things and if I do it for a year or so then I have it on my CV and can do the same thing completely remote (which would give me greater control over my time with less travel required) for other clients.

And if I put another good real estate deal or two together then I'll have enough passive income to focus just on the real estate & do the healthcare thing on a very sporadic short term consulting basis if at all.

Time is the most valuable thing any of us has. Prize your time. You can make more money. You can't make more time, but you can absolutely maximize use of the time you have.

 

[noBSgames]

Right now 40 hours but it will soon be going up to 60 hours a week.

lets just say if the next girl like my ex can't handle me working longer hours she can go kick rocks.

 

[logicallefty]

@ImTheDoubleGreatest! I live very comfortably as far as I am able to afford all of my bills, put max into retirement each month, plus I go out to eat ~2 x per week. At the end of the month I always have something left for savings, anywhere from a couple hundred up to maybe $800 on a good month. I had a a lot more money in savings when I was younger. When I was with my first wife she had a great job and so did I and so for 1990s style of living we were what most called "rich". I walked out of that marriage with a nice wad of cash, and so did she. But then later after that much of it got ate due to some big emergencies I had to get through, like my ordeal marrying the bigamist and tall the sh|t that I went through in 2012. I am slowing building my savings back up to where it used to be but it takes time.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I work about 90 hours a month, occasionally closer to 100 hours if the real estate businesses need more attention.

Half the month I work a 35-40 hour week in one area as an executive in healthcare. I have plenty of time for social activities and working out & friends, the other half of the month I'm working a la Tim Ferris in 4 Hour Workweek (remote from home on my schedule for maybe 4-5 hours a week). In the remote setting I spend the majority of time with kids & doing family stuff, but there is plenty of time to work out, sleep in, nap, do what I want.

I'm good enough at what I do that my client agreed to this part time arrangement, which pays six figures. My real estate businesses also create a six figure income so I am able to buy/do/provide whatever I want within reason & I can take care of whatever my kids need, like braces, which they all have right now.

Three kids at 6K per kid in braces is 18K. No problem. I can afford it. Ditto music lessons, lacrosse equipment, vacations a couple times a year, etc.

If I want to go to a pro sporting event & take the children I can. If I want to eat out somewhere very expensive with friends or family I can. If I want a piece of art or a piece of jewelry I can buy it. If I want a piece of real estate I can swing it. It's a comfortable place to be. I have time to really think about & plan my next moves in life without financial stressors. It's a nice place to be & it's the result of very hard work & striving to be the best at what I do.

More important than how much one works I think is the quality of life one expects to enjoy. I have purposefully set my life up in such a way as to maximize income & enjoyment but minimize time required at work. My goal is to work even less while earning even more. My friends and men I go out with notice the way my life is structured and find it impressive. But it's the result of intent. It is no accident.

I decided in my first job out of college that I hate having to be somewhere to work at 8am. I'd much rather get up at my leisure & sleep in more. So I adjusted my career to fit greater independence and autonomy.

Currently I'm in an office setting part time for the first time in 20 years and I'm bored with it frankly. It's too much time commitment for me when I can be more effective in less time & still have a (+) impact on the organization.

I hate dealing with pettiness and small mindedness, and in managing people this is much of the job responsibilities (and why I have studiously avoided management to this point), but it's the natural expected progression of things and if I do it for a year or so then I have it on my CV and can do the same thing completely remote (which would give me greater control over my time with less travel required) for other clients.

And if I put another good real estate deal or two together then I'll have enough passive income to focus just on the real estate & do the healthcare thing on a very sporadic short term consulting basis if at all.

Time is the most valuable thing any of us has. Prize your time. You can make more money. You can't make more time, but you can absolutely maximize use of the time you have.

How did you get your job(s)?

 

[Roober]

5am-2pm, Monday through Friday, a bit more now since I am trying to build out my portfolio.

 

[Fireballs]

77 hour weeks but on a 2 week on 1 week off roster and live in Indonesia on my weeks off

 

[WitnessGR]

I work 44 hours a week as a promotional merchandiser, and I own my own llc ,business consulting and services.

All in all it its around 60-70 hours a week. I keep myself well groomed and dressed. Either gym or play golf in the summer 2-3 times a week.

Ive essientially outsourced most things that doesnt require me to actually do them. If you are looking to be more efficient with time, it is something to look into. I dont do my own laundry, groceries, or make my own food. My sister does all of that for me and i pay her. She is a senior in hs so its a nice flexable job for her.

 

[BeExcellent]

How did you get your job(s)?

Word of mouth, an excellent reputation for people skills & integrity, and competency. The current position came about thusly. I was working for one client as a consultant. My current large client (I also have a small client) hired me and got in line to have me in their organization once I finished a project that involved them but wasn't directly for them. So they knew my work ethic, quality & integrity. I was able to negotiate great terms because I don't need any one particular client, I am turning work away constantly...and they were determined to hire me.

So much like in the dating realm, the best talent has options and choices and can dictate terms as a result. I can always say "No". I have that luxury.

Poon King had a thread a while back about the power of saying no. When one has the power to say no, assuming you have real value and are sought after, you'll be amazed what you can negotiate.

The key is to put yourself into such a position by pursuing excellence. If you make top grades and top MCAT scores for instance, you'll have medical schools competing for you rather than the other way around. This gives you choices. If you then excel in medical school you'll have internship programs competing for you, opportunities competing for you.

Do everything you can to put yourself in this position of abundance, options and choices. Everything is determined by your hard work and achievements. Everything.

 

[GoodOne123]

I work 42 hours a week. Plus a 1 hour commute. It's tough but it never stopped me.

I go out to nightclubs either Friday or Saturday or both. Then sometimes might do something during the week too like a casual drink at the bar with friends.

I go to gym 2-3 times a week plus the occasional boxing class.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

5am-2pm, Monday through Friday, a bit more now since I am trying to build out my portfolio.

77 hour weeks but on a 2 week on 1 week off roster and live in Indonesia on my weeks off

What’s your guys’ quality of life so far? And how much do you both sleep?

I work 44 hours a week as a promotional merchandiser, and I own my own llc ,business consulting and services.

All in all it its around 60-70 hours a week. I keep myself well groomed and dressed. Either gym or play golf in the summer 2-3 times a week.

Ive essientially outsourced most things that doesnt require me to actually do them. If you are looking to be more efficient with time, it is something to look into. I dont do my own laundry, groceries, or make my own food. My sister does all of that for me and i pay her. She is a senior in hs so its a nice flexable job for her.

Lucky ass. My sisters don’t even know how to cook or do their own laundry. My brother and I do though which makes no sense because we’re guys. Shoot, my older sister is bullimic. She’ll eat food that I bought for myself and then barf it out. Then she’ll get mad at me for getting mad at her. Makes me want to lose my humanity towards her.
Rant aside, how much sleep do you get? Are you happy with your life overall?

Word of mouth, an excellent reputation for people skills & integrity, and competency. The current position came about thusly. I was working for one client as a consultant. My current large client (I also have a small client) hired me and got in line to have me in their organization once I finished a project that involved them but wasn't directly for them. So they knew my work ethic, quality & integrity. I was able to negotiate great terms because I don't need any one particular client, I am turning work away constantly...and they were determined to hire me.

So much like in the dating realm, the best talent has options and choices and can dictate terms as a result. I can always say "No". I have that luxury.

Okay but how did you get STARTED, is what I’m asking. I’m not dead set on one possible occupation. Shoot I’d become a janitor if I got paid a crap ton of money. I have no passion that’s ‘job worthy’. Money is the goal for the sole purpose of allowing me to do what I want and get what I want. If there is an easier way to acquire it without going through 8 years of pointless schooling, hundreds of thousands of dollars, and another half decade of near 80 hour work weeks (sometimes more) for poverty-pay, then then I’d like to know.

The key is to put yourself into such a position by pursuing excellence. If you make top grades and top MCAT scores for instance, you'll have medical schools competing for you rather than the other way around. This gives you choices. If you then excel in medical school you'll have internship programs competing for you, opportunities competing for you.

Do everything you can to put yourself in this position of abundance, options and choices. Everything is determined by your hard work and achievements. Everything.

And what about who you know? Isn’t that very important too though? The first thing you said above was word of mouth, even before your qualifications. Having been to many different areas, I have met a lot of different people, more so than most for my age, so that may have opened possible doors for me. But at the same time it stopped me from getting real close to anyone which may have closed some as well.

And medical school is almost stupid with how much work you have to put in. Being and actual doctor isn’t NEARLY as hard as college or residency, but it still sucks because by then you’re no longer an actual man. I went to the cardiologist sometime last week because I’m having heart problems, and he said it’s because I’m pushing myself too hard and that I should be happy that I can do what I can since someone like him will tire out so much more easily. I looked at him and thought that this guy is not a man, he can’t actually protect his family, he can’t even protect himself. He is an out of shape 50 or 60 year old who hasn’t done anything fitness related likely since he was around 10. He just takes money from people. He came up with the conclusions that he WANTED to come up with. The only difference between all the doctors I went to and what the Internet says is that a doctor can prescribe you medicine whereas the Internet cannot. But the ‘advice’ a doctor says can be given by a high school student with a computer. It pisses me off. Doctors only know how to take tests better. They aren’t actually smart or good people.

I work 42 hours a week. Plus a 1 hour commute. It's tough but it never stopped me.

I go out to nightclubs either Friday or Saturday or both. Then sometimes might do something during the week too like a casual drink at the bar with friends.

I go to gym 2-3 times a week plus the occasional boxing class.

How would you say your overall quality of life is? How much do you sleep on average?

 

[SgtSplacker]

Once you have been doing it for a while you learn to optimize...

 

[BeExcellent]

Lol, exactly. Being Red Pill usually comes with a Plus and Minus side.

Plus Side: You become more of a critical thinker, which helps you learn how various systems work (not just with women, but with politics, with money, with banking, with the career market, etc.) so that if you choose to do so....you can utilize this knowledge for your advantage.

Minus Side: While not in 100% of cases, but in MOST cases, you became Red Pill because you were in some ways isolated from "general/normal" society in the first place. That isolation caused you to be alone more than most people, which then inspired you to start researching, learning, and acquiring the various forms of knowledge that you have. But despite acquiring said knowledge, you are likely to still be somewhat isolated from "general/normal" society and said isolation DOES NOT mean that you are doing anything "wrong".

* For example, 80% of "general/normal society" lives paycheck-to-paycheck and struggles with basic financial management. By YOU having a good net worth, good cashflow, and NOT living paycheck-to-paycheck....that right there makes you different (or isolated) from "general/normal" society.

* For example, 70% of "general/normal society" are either overweight or obese. So by YOU working out, staying fit, and staying in good shape.....that right there makes you different (or isolated) from "general/normal" society.

I always knew growing up that I was different. It wasn't until I got into my mid-20's that I truly realized that me being "different" was actually a GOOD THING, because "general/normal" society has become completely fvcked up. But being different can be lonely, because when everybody is together in the "fvcked up pile" and you are alone standing in the "everything is going great pile", that can get pretty lonely.

This is so very true @Tenacity. I too had the "A-Ha" moment in my 20s. I recall feeling left out, isolated and somewhat invisible in junior high and high school because I went to school in an exceptionally affluent area but had parents who didn't give a flying flip about status or beauty or keeping up with the Joneses (and trust me there were serious Joneses around.) I was just as pretty and fit as other girls but my parents were not socially inclined people so I went essentially unsocialized except for around the boys in the neighborhood (there were no girls except my own sisters.) For years I was happy to pal around with the guys and be the tomboy. Hunt and fish and fix stuff with my dad (I was the free labor.) That was cool until the boys discovered girls around the 7th/8th grade and then I was an icky girl with no idea how to be pretty and cute, so they tossed me right out of the club. Ouch. I recall complaining to my mother about what everyone else was wearing, what brand of jeans or shoes or purses were "in style" that she refused to buy me, and her words ring in my ears til today:

"Would you jump off a cliff if that's what everyone else was doing?"

"I DON'T CARE about everyone else...You AREN'T everyone else."

Do you know how exceptionally happy I am now that my crazy covert narcissist mother drilled this into my psyche? Nope I'm NOT like everyone else. I'm EXCEPTIONAL. I discovered I was hot in college (thank goodness I was surrounded by a group of well raised, great women who taught me all the stuff most mothers teach their daughters - and who also explained the pitfalls of dating and how men REALLY are - no offense guys) and that I had a strength of character that many other women (even at times prettier women) did NOT have. Being different and being raised with character first has served me very well in life. I'm not perfect and I've taken a mulligan or two along the way, but I'm pleased with the outcome and am so glad I have the ability to swim against the tide if that's what looks like the wisest choice to me. Others' opinions be dammed.

I most enjoy hanging out with other people who think outside the box, take things "they" tell you with a grain of salt and surf the edge/do their own thing as much as possible. Many of my friends now express a touch of envy at my vitality and verve and DGAF that is deeply intrinsic to who I am. Men are drawn to that quality like crazy, which is sort of ironic looking back. I'm so much more than a pretty face. It's great fun.

You are an original. EMBRACE it!!

 

[lizardking82]

I work as a freelance photographer right now, but that is not my main occupation, unfortunately, not yet. Though, the hours I work can go from 5 hours a day to 10 hours a day sometimes. I also do social media managing for a restaurant and maybe will start with a second one soon enough. And the thing that takes a lot of my time right now is also sports predictions. I do not spend any money on that, but I get people buying mine cause I am good at it. They get me very busy during weekends since most games are played during weekends and it is no wonder at all for me to be working non-stop on Saturdays and Sundays for 9 or 10 hours.

A good amount of my time is also spent on self education. I watch YouTube videos of people with a lot of experience and success in certain fields I am interested in, much better than university. Sleep is something that is a bit non-regular on my side. There are nights when I sleep 7 hours, there are nights when I sleep 3.

Right now, not all that interested in getting to know women that much. Their "novelty" is something I rarely find in very few women, most of them are just ****e.