Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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How many friends from high school are you still in touch with?

madgame

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First off, sorry for this being a thread that's not on picking up, but I thought this forum might be the best place to ask this question (better than anything else).

I'm still pretty young 24 and 1/2..but for the last 2-3 years I've basically been without any close friends. Not that nobody likes me, but the friends I've had for the past 7 or 8 years all sort of moved in different directions (diff. cities or even abroad) and there's not much contact anymore.

I'm not looking to complain, I'm in college and plan on doing a year abroad and actually don't think it's that bad as I'm considering moving to another place myself and not having any very close friendships here is good b/c it won't hold me back from doing that.

However, what I've been wondering: Is that something that happens to most people at that time of their lives? Losing touch with most friends in their early to mid twenties b/c guys are going to college or accepting jobs in other locations?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The Inside Man

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Just three. Have a few good buds from college I still talk to.

I've been dealing with the same sort of thing, I'm 23. It's a pretty big adjustment to go from college where you have all your friends to the real world, where your friends may not be. I moved to florida for grad school and a job and didn't know anyone when I got here. I know a few people now but no one I would call a good friend. I just try to keep in touch with my dudes from back home, talk on the phone once a month or something. Def. go for the study abroad and think about moving when you get out of college, it's a great, if challenging, experience.
 

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None. I stayed friends with them for a couple years after high school (we graduated in 2000) but then I stopped returning their calls. A couple of years ago, we met up for a movie but it just reaffirmed my belief that I didn't want to stay friends with them. Every once in a while, one of them calls me when he's either drunk or high, I never pick up or return his voice mails.

I always had the feeling that I had made the wrong friends in high school. We were definitely not the cool people and none of us got girls. I realize now that if I bothered to join the baseball team or something I could have been in the "in crowd," going to the parties and getting laid.

I haven't made any friends since then, because it's harder to make friends in Jr. college. That will probably change when I go to a university next August.
 

Broham

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I've had the same problem as you dude. I'm 26 and most of my friends from college and even my current friends either live pretty far from me or are in the military. Therefore, that leaves me hanging out with either my GF, who I live with, her family, or my family.

Obviously things could be worse, but I do envy guys who get to do "Guys' Night Out" 1-2 times a week. I just wish I had a group of 4-5 dudes who could just meet up at a different guy's house and watch the game, drink a few beers and talk about sports/sex/whatever.....

I do think losing touch is a common thing, especially when you reach your late twenties when Phase 3 of the Matrix hits and everyone starts getting married.
 

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Hehe actually, I must say I don't think of this as being a problem for me (though admiteddly it's a strange stage in life). I guess it's actually a positive thing if I do pull off the moving abroad thing (I'm in Germany..and want to move to another sunnier place in Europe (Southern France (I can speak French already) or Spain/Portugal), because living in a place where the sun doesn't shine at all for 6 months a year is making me more and more depressive...plus a bigger city where more partying is going on.

I made this thread mostly b/c I was curious to see if other people felt the same way. I mean if I look at my dad or other peoples' dads it doesn't seem like they're still close friends with a bunch of people they went to high school with...and I was wondering if the mid-20s or so were about the time in life where this happens to most people (to find an explanation for my situation, I guess).
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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EDIT: I guess another thing is that most of the friendships I've had aren't really close friendships, but more like 'buddies' that you hit the clubs on the weekend or hang out sometimes, but nothing 'deeper' than that
 

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EDIT: I guess another thing is that most of the friendships I've had aren't really close friendships, but more like 'buddies' that you hit the clubs on the weekend or hang out sometimes, but nothing 'deeper' than that
 

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I used to have a lot of friends in high school (but then I found out that they were the ones causing all the drama. I dropped them).

After that, I still had preston, jeff, TJ, and emmitt.

Emmitt went to college in Maine.

Jeff and Preston are in Afghanistan.

TJ is in Iraq.

All of my friends are out of the state or in another college.

comic_relief
 

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I have a couple I talk to and hang out with on a regular basis, but I actually keep in touch with a lot of them through facebook. It's amazing how small of a world it is--I found out almost a quarter of my class lives in the same neighborhood as I do. (I'm 25, btw)
 

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i'm only super close with 3 friends from high school. i'm pretty good friends with another 4 or 5. and i associate with another 5-10 occasionally.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I got 0 left.
We all just gradually grew apart because I refuse to be a chump and they still just wanna play video games.
 
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