"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How long you been waiting to do a follow up text?

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Met a girl at a wedding. Got her number, couldn't close (I'll spare you the six hour story). Text her:

Me: What's the rule on texting a girl after getting her number? 48 hours? (**this was about 24 hours later)
Girl: LOL never texted a girl before.
Me: Oh? Not that good with the ladies. Total red flag.

Silence.

No **** I ****ed up by going too strong with the CF plus she just demonstrated LOI, or whatever caused her not to respond. It's been 48 hours since my last text. I've been thinking go a full week and start again, but what say the rest of you? Are girls attention spans nowadays so small with the advent of phones that a week is too long?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Yeah, you fvcked that one up, lol. All you had to say was "nice meeting you at the wedding". Second text to set something up. That's it. Always have a point to sending that text.
 

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Yeah, you fvcked that one up, lol. All you had to say was "nice meeting you at the wedding". Second text to set something up. That's it. Always have a point to sending that text.
Obviously- that's why I acknowledge I messed up

Do you plan on answering my question?
 

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I would text in one week:

"Hi."

If she responds to that, I would then invite her to drink with me. Be specific with day, time, and place.

Save the wit and charm for the in-person meetup.
Agreed. Thanks Espi. Wait till after the 4th or don't give a **** text her anyway?
 

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yeah, you should have answered "I was never good at memorizing rules" Now, there is a salvage attempt. wait until after the 4th, make damn sure you had something interesting to do, so if she asks you can tell her. Then try to message her, "hey how you been, would have gotten back to you earlier, but I was busy xyz over the 4th.. See if she bites.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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yeah, you should have answered "I was never good at memorizing rules" Now, there is a salvage attempt. wait until after the 4th, make damn sure you had something interesting to do, so if she asks you can tell her. Then try to message her, "hey how you been, would have gotten back to you earlier, but I was busy xyz over the 4th.. See if she bites.
I'm moving from orlando to ft. lauderdale (she lives in ft. lauderdale too) this weekend. i'll leverage if you think this is a good follow up on july 5th. tweak if you got a better follow up (my first texts got me shook with a lack of confidence)

"hey, wanted to get back to you earlier, but been busy with moving. how was your 4th?"
 

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yeah, that is good enough.... just enough to let her know she's not first on your list, but is still on it. IF that fails, go ghost..... no need trying for a woman who is playing for hard to get....
 

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said **** it and texted her today. got a date next week. lol. thanks for all the help team.
 

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General rule 5-7 days


Personal Experience: >15 yrs in the field (now married/retired)


If the girl likes you it doesn’t matter, you could call hours after meeting her (you may lower your value and decrease your future value/success with her), but it won’t matter


Women, who were interested, who I accidently message/texted when I was trying to store their numbers in ancient phones (who I later went out/relationship with) never cared.


Lastly, I always sent one text message, a single email, or single phone call and voicemail…and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER called them back or tried to get in touch. if I didn’t get response in 24 hours, I deleted their number/text. If they called me back after 24 hrs, I still ignored them. Life is too short to waste on uninterested women or mixed signals.


This was one of my golden rule. No women gets my special attention, unless she reciprocates.


Did I miss out of some by not being more persistent, probably, but as a man who knows his own worth, women were never a priority and there never was a shortage.


Hope it helps.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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While a friendly polite approach may not make her wet on the spot, its more than enough to get in touch with a girl who likes you and settle a date, keep the jokes and games for the date.

At the same time a "witty" or "cool" text is not gonna turn an uninterested girl in an interested one, actually it could turn off an unsure girl.

I believe that if a girl likes you its easy to make it work at least to settle a date.
 
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