"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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How long should you talk to a girl on IM before asking her out

Kaim Argonar

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OK so yesterday I got this girl's IM handle off some dating site and chatted with her a bit, talked about myself a bit, send her my pic and made her talk about her, nothing out of the ordinary happened in the convo, but overall she was friendly and it seems to have went well enough. Now I just wonder how soon I should propose a real date to her, say, to some restaurant or some ****.

Asking too soon I guess could make her feel uncomfortable as she's never seen me face to face and barely knows me, and lingering too much online could make her view me as nothing but a chicken **** too shy to do moves on a lady...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Gamer

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34.556823 hours. Wtf dude. Ask her WHEN YOU WANT TO. As much as people want this **** to be science is ISN'T! If you met her on a dating sight and now your talking to her, guess what!--she's waiting for something to happen. If you ask and she turns you down, next. Really simple, stop overthinking stupid ****.

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Kaim Argonar

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I know that she's most inevitably expecting this, but wouldn't it have sounded somewhat desperate (which I'm not) to rush and propose a date to a girl you're interacting with for the very first time, through an online mean at that?
 

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The sooner the better.

Just be friendly and brief about it and it won't come across as creepy or desperate.
 

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When you start getting a good vibe that she's interested... she'll help you out.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Kaim Argonar

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dannyegg4575 said:
When you start getting a good vibe that she's interested... she'll help you out.
She's not just waiting for you to do the move? It sounds hard to trigger such vibes through mundane online text exchanges. Plus she doesn't have a lot of stuff to pick up about you to decide whether she's willing to take things further or not. By going out and meeting up for real, that's what we're aiming to figure out.

Anyhow I may well chat with her briefly about random things the next time she shows up online, and then propose the date.
 

xdreamz

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whats asking a woman out?

no seriously is that like marriage or when people do it or something?

no?
 

dannyegg4575

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It's simple, are your conversations fun? is she laughing at your jokes or seem interested in the things you say? does she initiate the msn 50% of the time? If she does, you're in. Get her to go out, and do it fast.

rule of thumb, 3-7 dates, you're set. if you're more conservative, 12. if you just want to bang and leave, 1-2. that's it.
 

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Yes the conversations were fun and she seemed pretty interested in the things I said, she used a lot of sweet animated emoticons too (not offered by default in the IM program), but we've only talked one time so far, for about 50 minutes or so. Would it still be a good idea to ask her out next time?

Maybe it's a good thing to take things offline pretty fast.
 

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dude... think of asking her out as... just chilling out with her. don't put her as your wife already. when time comes, just ask her out, hang out and chill. don't act all desperate or anything... just stay cool and then let her think about you.

If she's fun, she'll hang out with you some more. if not, she wouldn't give a rats ass about you. she'd already next you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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