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15 mins? 10 minutes? How long?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How long does it take you to get ready for an outing?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
BaronOfHair
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Right now? 15 minutes. Should I wake up Trans one morning, that'll be stretched out to 25... Readying both a Glock 10mm and a SIG Sauer P226 before moseying on down to the hockey rink, going out in a blaze of glory*, isn't exactly labor unintensive
*Tragically, current US pop is in such a sh-t-y shambles, no one of THIS caliber
is left to celebrate such achievements after the fact
*Tragically, current US pop is in such a sh-t-y shambles, no one of THIS caliber
Mike32ct
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I allow an hour. I’m picky about clothing/outfits.
Not gay. Just “metrosexual” or whatever they used to call it.
I also hate being in a rush.
Not gay. Just “metrosexual” or whatever they used to call it.
I also hate being in a rush.
Prepostereax
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It really depends..
If I'm just going to meet someone for brunch or lunch, it's literally seconds.. phone/ wallet/ shades/ keys/ shoes and I'm out the door.
Maybe a different top.
Oh and take a leak before I go (& wash/dry my hands if you wanna be specific) So about 2+1/2 minutes.
But if I'm gonna pull an all-nighter, something basically against my biorhythms, then more planning is required.
I'll be chilling during the day, and take a siesta after lunch (* I'll also skip lunch if it's a dinner date. Better to go a little hungry).
If I can't rest / siesta, then at least half an hour to an hour or so meditation.
Shower before getting dressed and going out.
So it's about a half day prep.
If I'm just going to meet someone for brunch or lunch, it's literally seconds.. phone/ wallet/ shades/ keys/ shoes and I'm out the door.
Maybe a different top.
Oh and take a leak before I go (& wash/dry my hands if you wanna be specific) So about 2+1/2 minutes.
But if I'm gonna pull an all-nighter, something basically against my biorhythms, then more planning is required.
I'll be chilling during the day, and take a siesta after lunch (* I'll also skip lunch if it's a dinner date. Better to go a little hungry).
If I can't rest / siesta, then at least half an hour to an hour or so meditation.
Shower before getting dressed and going out.
So it's about a half day prep.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.