"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

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joe45

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Previously i met a girl off the net we went out like once a week for approx 2 months.
my main question is this how long or how many dates would you as a guy or gal go on before askin or assuming that you and her are bf/gf? i was dating Jen(gal i met off the net) for 2 months , and when i asked her if we were dating or relatonship-she said dating. isn't 2 months enough to consider urself bf/gf.
if the dating thing went on for more than 2 months lets say 4-5 months and she still said it was dating -what would you think of this. was i just getting the run around or not. i'm just glad i didn;t spend a lot of money on her. if this scenario happened to you , what would u think.

oh ya get this --- she had a previous bf which she dated for a month and she already considered him as a bf, but with me its just dating hmmm. why?



also as a guy or gal who have been on dates how long , before you guys even have sex. in 2 months i only kissed her in the theatre but nothing more, we both live at home-so no place.
is 2 months -once a wk too short to ask for sex or how long is appropriate? do u just aske for it, or do you jsut go for a kiss and ....... and then sex .

give me feedback on what you guys think, yea total rookie as u now of it
 

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Francisco d'Anconia

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It depends on the tides and the phase of the moon... :rolleyes:

Dude, people aren't clocks or calendars; don't pretend that they are. You need to progress your interactions before you can make any accomplishments. It's not based on time, it's based on actions.
 

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Women often seem to categorize a guy right off the bat, into:

Friend
Casual dating, but not sex
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Casual sex
Bf material
LTR material
Marriage prospect

I often get girls joking with me about marriage and kids early on, even though some of them may have had LTRs before where they never really discussed such potential. I think a lot of it is based upon if you happen to satisfy a checklist they already have in their head. And either you satisfy it or you don't - dating longer probably won't change that. But regardless, you at least want to be past the "no sex" zone, lol. :whistle:

Anyways, I think it may be hard to move up categories once she's already stuck you in one...although you can definitely always move down.
 

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joe45 said:
i asked her if we were dating or relatonship-she said dating.

in 2 months i only kissed her in the theatre but nothing more

she had a previous bf which she dated for a month and she already considered him as a bf

too short to ask for sex or how long is appropriate? do u just aske for it, or do you jsut go for a kiss and ....... and then sex .
I'm sorry to tell you this, but she knows that she has you on a string. That's not to say she doesn't like you - I'm sure she does. But since you took so long to make moves relative to other guys she's dated, she knows that you don't interact with girls as often and doesn't fear losing you to other girls. You asked her if you were dating or in a relationship, and she replied, "dating." For two reasons - you're not satisfying her (physically) to the extent of her previous boyfriends and you have proven to her that you don't have any other options. If she feared losing you, she wouldn't have said that, and you wouldn't have had to ask. As for sex, don't ask for it. As for the pace, you're asking her and us about it? Maybe nobody ever taught you this, but you set the pace. You need to step things up physically rather quickly. You need to pull away emotionally a bit so she doesn't walk all over you. You need be dating at least one other girl while you're dating this girl, and things will go much better. Your behavior will change naturally, she'll sense that there is another girl and will more likely commit, and you'll get more of what you want out of this relationship. ASAP!
 

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What is that about when they talk about marriage and kids for a joke?

This HB other day started saying her name with my surname, it was a joke but I was thinking what was it all about
 

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If it's a joke when she uses your surname with her name, she's negging you. Or you could just call that teasing, flirting, etc.
 

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Just ask her if she is dating someone else with your surname, if so you might be related :yes: Turns it back on its head.
 

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I wouldn't consider someone I'm not sleeping with a girlfriend, first of all. You should make fvcking her a priority. Don't say you can't fvck her because you're living at home either, that's an excuse. I have, and millions of other guys have. 2 months of dating a girl without regular sex would drive me crazy. If I don't fvck someone I'm seeing within 2 weeks, she's not worth my time - infact I don't even take girls out on dates until I screw them. I do things I want to do and invite women along. It may seem like a matter of semantics, but the mindset that goes with it is important.
 

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It all depends...

You can **** anywhere from less than 5minutes and as long as over a year (I know some people who waited)

As for the dating thing you said you hangout once a week thats like Fuvk buddy terms right there. If you're want to get the bf/gf vibe your going to have to see her more often.
 

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Distant Light said:
It all depends...

You can **** anywhere from less than 5minutes and as long as over a year (I know some people who waited)

As for the dating thing you said you hangout once a week thats like Fuvk buddy terms right there. If you're want to get the bf/gf vibe your going to have to see her more often.
Maybe they waited a year, but that's still a close friendship until it happens. And it generally only happens in childish high school relationships, not between adults. I suppose the extremely religious type is an exception, but joe45 has made no mention of that.

If he starts seeing her more often before they have sex that's going to put him straight into the friend zone. Women WANT to have sex; often times more than men, though they won't usually admit it. joe45, why are you denying her what she wants? ;)
 

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hmmm

Anyways, I think it may be hard to move up categories once she's already stuck you in one...although you can definitely always move down.
Few exceptions, but agreed for the most part.

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I'd say if a female is interested in you, after first date usually it can go down. If you wait past 2 dates to fvck a female, you're going to get demoted into either a 'friend' or if she's HIGHLY interested in you she'll work to see what's so 'special' about you that u don't want to fvck her...

2 months and only a kiss ?? Sounds like highschool...

My current gf slept over my place on the 2nd date, no questions asked she basically volunteered... so that should answer some questions ;)


-Cod3r
 

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wtf, you dont ask a girl if we're dating or not. you just see a girl and if it happens, you'll fall in love or remain friends.
 

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It takes 47 days, 8 hours and 16 minutes before a couple has sex.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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