"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How long do i wait to call

gimmeyofonenumba

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got a chick's number, because a group of us from school are supposed to be meeting up later, but how long should i wait to call? since school is over, like what 2 days? also, can i perhaps call sat/sun and ask to do something that day? maybe just get some coffee or something. I dont wanna give like 5 days of preperation, damn by then she prolly would've forgotten about me, I feel as if i need to move in more sooner than later.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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WORKEROUTER

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No she won't "forget" you.

In fact, it will make you seem more mysterious, and she'll think that you are one of the few guys who has a life.

I say call her in 3-4 days. Tell her you were busy the past few days, but wouldn't mind setting up a date to get together.
 

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Call her in three days, 5 hours, 43 minutes and 28 seconds.
 

gimmeyofonenumba

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Originally posted by ARK
Call her in three days, 5 hours, 43 minutes and 28 seconds.
Will do! also, im just gonna lay it out real simple.. " hey, whats goin on, i wanna talk to you, lets meet up for some______" now, after we go for coffe, when is a good time to leave, i think most people make the mistake of leaving when the conversaion dulls, also, do i setup the next date there, and whats a good place to after coffe??? lotsa questions, thanks yall
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ARK

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Im not in to the whole coffee date stuff. That sounds like something friends would do to meet and talk.

Conversate then say your intent. "I would like to take you, blah blah blah.." Set up the next date via the phone. Call her after a couple days, ask her how she is and proceed to ask her out again.
 

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Call her whenever you want, as long as it's not coming from a postion of neediness.
 

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Originally posted by ARK
Call her in three days, 5 hours, 43 minutes and 28 seconds.
:crackup:
 

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a little while ago, i hit on a random girl on the bus for 30 mins. I got her number, then phoned her 2 weeks later (I genuinly am busy, and DO have a life) and she was still warm.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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like the other guys said, just keep it short and to the point, and don't call any later than 4 days, cos otherwise she might think you're playing games with her or she'll forget about you.
 

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Statistically speaking...

2 days has been best for me. Sometimes 3, hardly ever later. By day 4 the vibe is way down.

But bear in mind my game is more physical than verbal. It's all about the vibe. So it may even be best for me to call the very next day. Often gals beat me to the punch and call first: usually on the 2nd day -- which tells you something about their expectations.

But that said, do what you want. I just advise you not wait too bloody long, or your odds drop.
 
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