"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How long before approaching a recently broken up girl-

ace88

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The title must be confusing you a little. I shall clarify. A girl i know broke up with her bf recently (2 weeks) she is having many problems at home(not related to the break up) and she is wrecked by the break up.

Now.....

She is steaming and i need to tap that.

I spoke to her a little since we are friends... i didn't know she had broke up, she told me straight away, we caught up the missed time, chatted about her issues. I am not going for it openly...we met out two nights ago, she came to a bar where i was with friends (i gave her the idea, since i told her it would help her get over the breakup)

she(A) came up to say hi, told me she lost my number, shy tried reaching me on FB but i didnt reply (i didnt know my roaming was of)
meanwhile another gir(B)l comes up to me and starts talking over A, i continue talking to B for a good 5 min then when she leaves i turn back to A and ask her to finish what she was saying but A said "whatever" took her drink and left. I went to fetch her twice. First time she said i'll be right back and never came back second time she ignored me and just left. I spoke to her around 1am when i went home cos i sent her my number. we spoke the day after that and now its silence since 24h when should I start chasing down the bird? should I chase the bird?

Bruvers share your wisdom with me. thanks :flowers:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Good that both A and B know you have other options. A good position to be in.

I would wait another day or two and contact both of them and see who replies.

If A and/or B do not reply, don't chase them.

And whatever you do don't apologize to either of them for anything. Yeah you were a little rude to A sense she was talking first and B cut in but don't acknowledge that.
 

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Depends on the girl.

Sometimes the sooner the better, others a couple of days.

I once picked up a girl who broke up with her boyfriend 10 minutes later :up:
 

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Thanks for the answers. I forgot to mention B was drunk :)

I do care i am the rebound thats why i didnt jump in right away id like to keep it going for a while if it starts so I'd like to avoid being the rebound for the short period.
 

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ace88 said:
I spoke to her a little since we are friends... i didn't know she had broke up, she told me straight away, we caught up the missed time, chatted about her issues. I am not going for it openly...we met out two nights ago, she came to a bar where i was with friends (i gave her the idea, since i told her it would help her get over the breakup)
She's using you as an emotional tampon. You've already been friend zoned and are in a bad position to bang her. Your best chance is to act detached about her problems and whatever you do... do not put forth any significant effort listening to or comforting her. As soon as you do that, she knows you care too much and she will continue to be dry as the Sahara. Make her question whether you're really interested in her problems, then in a week or so ask her out to do something. Escalate and maintain your frame. The problem is it sounds like you've already been a friend to her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If you are looking for sex then pounce quickly !

However , if you are looking for a LTR please DONT.
You can end up as a rebound or just simply meet way too much headaches. Give her time to learn from the relationship , date her when she is confident and her old self instead of thinking you can make her FEEL better.
 

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Yewki said:
She's using you as an emotional tampon. You've already been friend zoned and are in a bad position to bang her. Your best chance is to act detached about her problems and whatever you do... do not put forth any significant effort listening to or comforting her. As soon as you do that, she knows you care too much and she will continue to be dry as the Sahara. Make her question whether you're really interested in her problems, then in a week or so ask her out to do something. Escalate and maintain your frame. The problem is it sounds like you've already been a friend to her.

reason why i went into darkness.... after reading all the comments. I think I'll take a break.
 

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Who cares about that. I have a much bigger problem. I just weigh an ounce. Help please help! I need help now!
 

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I would start of with an apology. "Sorry I was a bit busy the other day,..." Really either way should work, don't over apologize and don't chase of unresponsive.. Their loss. This is just my opinion.
 
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