How hopeless can a guy be?

[Red Legg]

So of the 30, how many do you ****? give us a number on average. thanks. I am asking because i have a point to make to these guys

When I was younger and in the military I took (secretly) a side job after work selling vacuum cleaners door to door..these vacuums cost 2000 dollars each and this was in 1995 ! it was called a "fairfax" I learned about the "law of averages " very quickly,any good salesman knows about the law of averages.If I approach 20-30 women in a day I can get at least 3-5 numbers out of those I can fvck 1 at least..I have however had same day lays so it depends if the numbers are on my side that day or not.Sales is just like picking up women especially door to door sales that largely does not exist anymore..

 

[DJnoob]

When I was younger and in the military I took (secretly) a side job after work selling vacuum cleaners door to door..these vacuums cost 2000 dollars each and this was in 1995 ! it was called a "fairfax" I learned about the "law of averages " very quickly,any good salesman knows about the law of averages.If I approach 20-30 women in a day I can get at least 3-5 numbers out of those I can fvck 1 at least..I have however had same day lays so it depends if the numbers are on my side that day or not.Sales is just like picking up women especially door to door sales that largely does not exist anymore..

1. red, at what point in the approaching did you become "numb" to rejection???
2. What led you to approaching 20-30 a day?
3. Yes, i believe in the law of averages. Each guy has a different ratio/law of average above their heads they can't see in terms of closing deal with women.
The way you are making it sound is like fun and adventurous type lottery, slot machine type adrenaline rush =D

 

[IKO69]

No guy is hopeless unless they are hideously deformed or handicapped. What the problem often is is the guy has his priorities mixed up. Many guys try to make things happen when they are in no position to make things happen. If you look at yourself in the mirror and don't think you are a catch, I mean truthfully deep down know that in your gut - people like to tell themselves "White lies" all the time, but if you deep down in your gut know you aren't a catch or aren't as great as you could be....then why in the hell do you think other women will think so? When they have guys who have things more going on pursuing them? This goes especially towards "hot women". You need to invest in yourself first and fix whatever bull**** you have going on. You owe it to yourself - no one else will do it for you.

 

[corrector]

I know a guy can pay for it,

I don't think many people are comfortable getting intimate with a woman they don't know, where the whole dynamics don't feel natural or right, and also knowing that you are the gazillionth guy she probably seen and possibly the 8th person that day. She may also be stoned while you a are dealing with her. There is only one poster on this board so far that appears to be happy with this. No one else I see here that's seriously into that.

In other words, people either see escorts as an addictive pattern of behaviour and they like the arrangement and can afford it, or they deal with normal women and they get laid for free. Very rarely does anyone really think of that as a "last resort" for a bad night or blue balls. So I would challenge the logic that, based on the way you wrote that, or implied by it, that, it's really true that "oh yeah, I had a bad time sarging, nobody took me on today, hey, you now what, I'm going to see an escort so I don't feel like a total loser". Again, I doubt anyone will find comfort they can pay for it if they can't get a real girl, it sort of feels like "this rubs it in further, and is an even lower depth of despair". Anyone that's into it, probably just likes doing this stuff, rather than an ego-cushion.

 

[Spaz]

Work on your social skills then. That’s priority #1.

Frame should be No. 1

Guys with almost zero social skills can and does pull women.

Guys with considerable frame has presence and generates aura that pulls women.

 

[Red Legg]

1. red, at what point in the approaching did you become "numb" to rejection???
2. What led you to approaching 20-30 a day?
3. Yes, i believe in the law of averages. Each guy has a different ratio/law of average above their heads they can't see in terms of closing deal with women.
The way you are making it sound is like fun and adventurous type lottery, slot machine type adrenaline rush =D

1) I became numb to approaching after doing it for the millionth time 2)I found it fun plus I have the time 3) I find it very fun especially the rejections.

 

[DJnoob]

1) I became numb to approaching after doing it for the millionth time 2)I found it fun plus I have the time 3) I find it very fun especially the rejections.

Would you say when they start asking questions back about you, thats huge sign?

 

[Mike32ct]

Frame should be No. 1

Guys with almost zero social skills can and does pull women.

Guys with considerable frame has presence and generates aura that pulls women.

How would you define “frame?”

I know roughly what it means, but it’s not the easiest concept to grasp.

 

[Spaz]

How would you define “frame?”

I know roughly what it means, but it’s not the easiest concept to grasp.

Your core values + your principles + your operational techniques = Frame.

I'll expand the above point form;

What you were thought when you were young + how you think (what u hv learnt) + how you do things = Frame.

 

[Red Legg]

Would you say when they start asking questions back about you, thats huge sign?

Yes...When you approach enough you can tell within about 30 seconds of conversation whether she "digs" you or not..