"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How have Attention Wh0res responded to you when you walked away?

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I'm just wondering what people have experienced when they walked away from an AW?

Has anyone gotten one to come after them at some point in the future?

I'm dealing with an AW now, she contacts me all the time and crap, but never says yes or no when I invite her to join me for stuff.

I've had mixed results with dropping AW's before (I've encountered only two of these creatures in my life, so they are rare to me and I don't know how this type of play is most likely to end).

One came back a year later and said she was sorry for passing me up the first time and then she completely came onto me. I was with someone else at the time so I said no.

However I had one AW go away and that was the end of it with her. So I'm batting 50/50 on the AW issue.

Can others give me their results from walking away from the AW? How did your situations play out and did any come back for you looking for something real?

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The last AW I dealt with only would only respond to me when I would Leave without saying goodbye, or if she thought I was mad at her, or something negative like that. That was the only time she would ever call me, even though she would constantly say she'd call me later. Two months ago, I left her a mean message on myspace after she pulled some BS with me. She replied LAST WEEK. She was like "you're not very friendly to me anymore, you know." Almost like she wonders why I dont talk to her, after she played headgames and ****teased me, and flaked on me.
It seems AW's respond to negativity the most. I've gotten laid by doing that though. I banged some HB8 that every dude was after, by flicking cigarettes at her and being a total prick, cuz she was an AW, and I didnt like her at all. I tried to fight her off for a few hours, before I gave in and pounded her guts in for two days straight. I think I was the first dude to bang her after she move into my town.
 

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i've only delt with one but everytime i leave her without even a word she'll get all teary eyed and talk to people about wanting me back. for a while it worked now it doesn't because as soon as she got me back she went right back to her old ways pretty much almost instantly
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Christz,

Did you ever hook up with her? I'm assuming so by the "she wants me back" statement?

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All women are AWs in my opinion. The only difference is the degree. There are pure 100% AWs who usually are BPD nutjobs and there are those who show only mild signs of being an AW.

In almost every case, however, withdrawing your attention or demonstrating that you have other priorities or interests including other women, usuallly is effective in breaking their flakey/nutty behavior. Showing indifference to their behavior is also quite effective.
 

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fedagent said:
Christz,

Did you ever hook up with her? I'm assuming so by the "she wants me back" statement?

Fed
yeah we had a 2 month fling at least that's what i call it where we hooked up. but that's the way all AW's are.. they use what's between their legs to get an edge up and then use you for everything your worth.
 

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I had a married chick **** tease me. I left and never looked back, about month later she came back, but I wasn't available.


Walk away means just that. Say you talking with her, then you decide to walk away and you do, and you move on to other things. It's super powerful, in time they think there is something wrong with them, especially if they see how good you are.

I've done walking away to hurt people, basically to put me above them to have my ego stroked and hopefully c0ck sucked evetually, that sh1t don't work. You walk away because your time is valuable and you only waste it on women you want to fvck. Ideally, if she comes around next time, you don't even remember what happen between you two and if it's been a while you can start pretty much over.




And hm, when she calls or asks are you mad at me it's to check if you are. If you are mad at her or you are NOT mad at her then it means you care, and if you on to the next great thing then something is wrong with her. Your actions should indicate if you care or not, so no faking here, you gotta be real.

If she thinks you care, forget it, she will put you into that average frowning basket and you will not be worth her time to try again.
 

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Ideally, if she comes around next time,
djslvt,

What do you mean by come around next time? As in they initiate contact at some point down the road (say 6 months later or more)?

Fed
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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djslvt, you say be genuine, no faking. That potentially, you can get over the whole thing and start over if there's a connection there. But then you say if she thinks you care it's over.

I've noticed this, if they think they "got you" then their insecurities are satisfied. They win. So, don't let them win. Let them know your attention is conditional, on good behavior. But they have to know this, they can't just guess. You have to put them on the spot and give them the option to get their act together, or you just walk away.

BTW it's been five months since I heard from my own little BPD. Not a peep since.
 

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That's when she AI you or tries to get your attention. The more you're into the game, the more you preoccupied with macking every b1tch you meet, the harder it will be for her to get your attention and invite you for apporach, so the harder she will try.


It could be anything to grab your attention.


Such as phoning you. Your machine should pick up. And if you do pick up tell her something that says to her (not just in words) that you're fvcking busy and never give direct answer, tell her you will call her and don't ever call her.

It could be her getting in touch with your relatives. They no doubt will tell you, that's AI.

Any AI you could think of. If you're busy maching and you suddenly see this girl screaming HELLO, then it means she's back.



Key here is not to concentrate on one chick, your time is too valuable. If you busy with other chicks, then who care about this one.






Reset, genuitely don't care if you see her again or not. If she thinks you're not genuine in your indifference, that means you care, that also means she can walk away just as easily and you would care and feel sorry and bad about the whole situation. It's gotta be the opposite.
 

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I agree it's got to be the opposite, but that's a pretty crappy formula for any type of adult relationship.
 

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Any AI you could think of. If you're busy maching and you suddenly see this girl screaming HELLO, then it means she's back.
AI? Not sure what that acronym is?

The AW I'm dealing with IM's me every day at work (we work for the same company, but completely separate areas.....I know I know....no company ink, but that's another discussion altogether).

My point being, she's a total AW and contacts me all of the time. So I think I'm just going to phase her out aggressively (talk for a few phrases on IM and just end the session, and reply to every third text message, etc,....).

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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NO NO NO NO! You not reading me.. You could care, but not if she's toying with you, that's disrespect.


When you walk away you don't care. Because caring for people who dis you or women that haven't let you hit it yet is AFCish.




OP, approach invitation. Just find other women, I bet there are other women there. Game her, and stop caring about this one.
 

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djSlvt said:
NO NO NO NO! You not reading me.. You could care, but not if she's toying with you, that's disrespect.


When you walk away you don't care. Because caring for people who dis you or women that haven't let you hit it yet is AFCish.
I agree. My problem is the one I know now, though it started well, I did turn AFC and got disrespected. Lots of games and drama. I finally put my foot down, now I'm qualifying her. Seems the only time you get somewhere is when you're kind of a jerk and just put them in their place, then they want to get you to trust them again.
 

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I've had one that would always try to contact me whenever I failed to contact her for any length of time. I'm not sure I would classify her as a 100% attention wh0re, tho. I think she just liked to waste my time because neither of us could find anyone better to date, altho the two of us didn't really have much in common.

In my experience, ignoring an attention wh0re does not usually make them come chase you. It may make them flirt with you a bit more when you do come across them, but they usually have enough guys chasing after them that they don't really need you.

DJ Slvt's advice seems wise. Next her to get rid of her, not to make her come back. Ganji games can only work so well with someone as f*cked up as an AW.
 
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I blew one off, i started ignoring the hell out of her, she tries to talk to me but i always cut the conversations off then she just leaves or i excuse my self by saying i have to take care of things ,
 

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their dossier for their malfeasance,lol
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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