Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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How far should I be able to get on 1st date?

Long2024

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I'm sure we all know the bases system. I need to aim as high as you more experienced men think is reasonable. Our date's the first day back to school and I expect plenty of other guys to be interested in her, so scaring off competition now=good, but going too far and making her run into their arms=bad. So, first base, second, where? My dorm room's a single so no roommate issues to interrupt privacy, but from the fact that it's an afternoon thing she may not be planning on going that far anyway. What should I be aiming for?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alphathree

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More info about the date and your confidence/experience level is needed.

Given that you're asking the question in the first place, I'd say lots of kino during the date (hand holding, light touching for guidance or to make a point,, arm-in-arm walking, whatever is appropriate).

Once you've got solid kino in place, it's very natural to kiss at the end of the date.

I wouldn't aim for more than that again, given that you're asking the question, and the way you phrased it and what that tells me about you.

The important thing isn't getting more than a kiss. It's getting a second date.
 

So pimp its scary

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How about this : Just go out with the girl to have fun, and if your vibing than kiss her. If it heats up after that that, well, it's all in the name of fun, now isn't it?
 
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