"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How far should I be able to get on 1st date?

Long2024

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I'm sure we all know the bases system. I need to aim as high as you more experienced men think is reasonable. Our date's the first day back to school and I expect plenty of other guys to be interested in her, so scaring off competition now=good, but going too far and making her run into their arms=bad. So, first base, second, where? My dorm room's a single so no roommate issues to interrupt privacy, but from the fact that it's an afternoon thing she may not be planning on going that far anyway. What should I be aiming for?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Alphathree

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More info about the date and your confidence/experience level is needed.

Given that you're asking the question in the first place, I'd say lots of kino during the date (hand holding, light touching for guidance or to make a point,, arm-in-arm walking, whatever is appropriate).

Once you've got solid kino in place, it's very natural to kiss at the end of the date.

I wouldn't aim for more than that again, given that you're asking the question, and the way you phrased it and what that tells me about you.

The important thing isn't getting more than a kiss. It's getting a second date.
 

So pimp its scary

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How about this : Just go out with the girl to have fun, and if your vibing than kiss her. If it heats up after that that, well, it's all in the name of fun, now isn't it?
 
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