"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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How does one be aggressive without coming across as desperate

mahon83050

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Does anyone else has this problem. I think my biggest fear is coming across as desperate. However, it is sometimes hard to find that happy median between too aggressive (which could mean desperate) or passive.

For example...chick at work I am working on.

I call her Tuesday night, she does not return my call.

She e-mails me the next day....sorry I did not call back, I was at my bro's baseball game.

Wednesday night...I call her again because I want to ask her out for Saturday and I do not want to do it at work. Once again, she fails to return my phone call.

She e-mails me again this morning..."oh, did u call last night?" My phone was acting wierd all night.


What does one do in this situation? I was thinking...F that *****, she can call me back, I ain't callin back. My sis says, no...that is not desperation if u call back....that is being a gentleman or a man. I mean, maybe I will call again, in a couple of days. Is this desperation in her eyes or being a man and being aggressive?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SnatchJP

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Well the main difference between agression and desperation is confidence. The aggressive man is confident. The desperate man is not.

So if you can feel confident that you'll land this girl even if you didn't call back, go ahead and call.
 

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I would say to try a third time... If she fails again... NEXT!!!!

Sometimes you have to give them the benefit of the doubt, but 3 tries should be more than enough. After 3 times you really look desperate.

Hope it helps....
 

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why couldn't you ask her out in person?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well,

Today she once again intiated e-mail contact with me and asked me to hang out with her and her friends at the bar Tomorrow night. I can't tell if I am in the friend zone or what?
 

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Originally posted by SnatchJP
Well the main difference between agression and desperation is confidence. The aggressive man is confident. The desperate man is not.

So if you can feel confident that you'll land this girl even if you didn't call back, go ahead and call.

Confidence. I totally agree and was going to post pretty much the same.
 
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