"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How does "No Fap" help you get quality chicks?

HumbleNinja

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I think "No Fap" is supposed to increase your levels of testosterone making a dude more prone to going up to chicks rather than wanking to the same Disney stories he used to believe in but now hates due to his deep throating a red pill or watching p0rn?

If so is that supposed to suddenly make chicks sense your increased levels and be more receptive?

If you're a weirdo who faps all the time then doesn't fap again don't you simply become a weirdo who doesn't fap anymore? And why in God's name would a chick be attracted to a weirdo regardless?

I personally believe not fapping isn't some cure all to getting chicks let alone approaching them in a normal way.

It's not being a weirdo who suddenly realizes Disney movies aren't real and watching p0rn all day thinking that's the way to have a remotely normal relationship with a quality woman.

Work on the heads on your shoulders instead. Rather than thinking with the ones in your pants all the time and expecting a quality chick then complaining about all chicks when you keep tripping over yourself with your newly increased testosterone levels and wind up with some nutty slore for a wifey.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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VladPatton

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No fapping = going on a diet when you're starving.

Men need to bust nuts, period. Besides the fact that you ain't gettin laid, you're gonna stop bustin loads on top of that? What you don't use you loose (see evolution).

Bust nuts, be happy, find a cool chick, bust even bigger nuts, be happier. There's your secret to life.
 
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BeDJ

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Jacking off is the easy way out.


Off topic,

You changed man, you used to be cool. Now, nobody really likes you..
 

TheBossman

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There is no point when your head is clearer than when you are done busting a nut.

How many guys have busted one with a girl and thought... "Jesus Christ.. I stuck my d1ck in that??? OR I spent how much money to bust a nut?"

The only people who benefit from no fapping are ugly girls and gold digging wh0res.
 

Peaks&Valleys

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HumbleNinja said:
I think "No Fap" is supposed to increase your levels of testosterone making a dude more prone to going up to chicks rather than wanking to the same Disney stories he used to believe in but now hates due to his deep throating a red pill or watching p0rn?

If so is that supposed to suddenly make chicks sense your increased levels and be more receptive?

If you're a weirdo who faps all the time then doesn't fap again don't you simply become a weirdo who doesn't fap anymore? And why in God's name would a chick be attracted to a weirdo regardless?

I personally believe not fapping isn't some cure all to getting chicks let alone approaching them in a normal way.

It's not being a weirdo who suddenly realizes Disney movies aren't real and watching p0rn all day thinking that's the way to have a remotely normal relationship with a quality woman.

Work on the heads on your shoulders instead. Rather than thinking with the ones in your pants all the time and expecting a quality chick then complaining about all chicks when you keep tripping over yourself with your newly increased testosterone levels and wind up with some nutty slore for a wifey.
LOL

There's no way this is the same guy as NaughtyNinja.

Gotta be that one dude Sageproduct, Ninja's evil sidekick, that's my theory, and...... he's getting you guys again.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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skinnyguy

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Advantages to fapping:

1) You're less sexually frustrated
2) You're less likely to go after HB 2's and 3's
3) It's cheaper than going on dates
4) You last longer in the bedroom

Fap away, my friend.
 

thatfeel

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Fapping doesn't help me last longer, either.
 

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I only fap to Disney movies. Does that make me a weirdo?
My favorite to fap to is sleeping beauty.

I wouldn't have kissed her to wake her up, I would have fapped all over her face, and let her sleep, and just fapped on her for the rest of her life.
 

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noobolgy said:
I only fap to Disney movies. Does that make me a weirdo?
My favorite to fap to is sleeping beauty.

I wouldn't have kissed her to wake her up, I would have fapped all over her face, and let her sleep, and just fapped on her for the rest of her life.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to noobolgy again.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So hey nofapper here (170 days) and I can tell you there's no magic here.i didn't become a chick magnet(but I do get noticed by them more often).
I think nofap is more about inner game. I still have a lot of flaws but on the other hand there are a lot of changes too. I'm more confident and relaxed with myself, I'm more concentrated on my studies and making a rich life and less on girls. But on the other hand I have no problem approaching and speaking to women . I had a two dates and a makeout session after two years of having no action.and I didn't take sht from her and stood my ground when I needed to and obviously she liked it .
so in the end you criticize me and no fap, even my friends laugh at me for doing this.
but I find a lot of benefits that I didn't have so...
Peace and out
 

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How does "No Fap" help you get quality chicks?

I don't know but nothing else has, so im now in my 17th day, at least if nothing else when I finally do it will be out of this world!!
 

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Stort have you tried it? To say its placebo effect?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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look at it this way...

there is is no substantial increase in testosterone to make any groundbreaking effects happen. The test will peak at around day 5 and level out at around day 7 and continue to stay at that level throughout with minor fluctuations through diet, exercise and so on.

You have this mindset that if you don't fap you are going to be able to pick up chicks or have all the confidence in the world... you know what that is ? now you aren't busting nuts into your socks you have more determination to score.

I haven't wanked for a few months on end just because I didn't feel like it, was worn out from work and training, it was extremely hot, too busy of a schedule, mrs was more than happy to look after my needs and so on. did I all of a sudden become more focused and determined? hell no. If I want to talk date or fvck a chick I have no problem going up and talking to her, if I get rejected well so be it.

Look at the end of the day you have to figure out what works for you! But please PLEASE find me a research paper that backs the no fap challenge and I might consider it being worth my time worrying about whether I play with myself or not for months on end.
 

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First thank you for answering me. Second like you said and also I can tell everyone there's no magic here ,I didn't become the legendary lover. I started the challange because many people reported many positive effects gained from it.I found many myself as manifesting more as inner game.for a research I didn't see one for nofap I can search for it if you want . but I did find a site and a research talking about the bad effects of porn.
 

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Pook, if I'm not mistaken, was an advocate of no fap (been a while since I read 'the book') because he theorized that women can subconsciously detect testosterone and anything that raises your testosterone is a good. Some guys report that it makes them more aggro, so there must be some truth to it raising your T. I have a feeling that how much it actually attracts women will differ from guy to guy and woman to woman.

Certainly will help motivate you to approach and close, though, which has its value if you are lazy or cop out easily.

Personally, I think its one of those things that if it works for you, do it. If not, don't.

Porn is worth keeping an eye on, though. Once in a while, no problem, but if you are using it habitually you may create problems for yourself in the long run.
 

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BeDJ said:
Jacking off is the easy way out.


Off topic,

You changed man, you used to be cool. Now, nobody really likes you..
I don't think he gives a fvck what people on the internet think of him.
 

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BeDJ said:
Jacking off is the easy way out.


Off topic,

You changed man, you used to be cool. Now, nobody really likes you..
Eh, i still think he's cool.

He's just making fun of many of the ridiculous rules people blindly follow on this site.

I have nothing against "no fap" if it makes someone feel better about himself. There's nothing wrong with learning a bit of discipline and self control. But reality is, you'd have a difficult time finding stories of "I went no fap, and all of a sudden I have 5 new dates lined up every week!"

I could go on about the "Alpha/Beta" stuff or the "you need muscles to get chicks" stuff, but I dont feel like debating it. Point is...some of the philosophies here need to be challenged, and if HumbleNinja is poking a bit of fun at this stuff...hey, at least I'm entertained.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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