How do you think the average wife today would react today if u 'wanna hang out with the guys on a Saturday night'.?

[Travel memoir21]

I'm be gonna be flat out honest with you. A lot of my marriage friends hangs out less with me the moment they got married, which I can understand they've got responsibilities and all. But If I were to get married, I would still make my friends and brothers a priority in my life. So that may backfire to a lot of women, some might even retaliate by having her own 'girls night out with her friends at a club or something' which is can cause a lot of friction in marriages or relationships. So how would you frame this properly in a relationship? It seems like most guys lose their balls and sense of masculine brotherhood and a fine connoisseur's gentlemanly taste and become a domesticated tamed puppy in most marriages. The matriarchy rules the world especially the West right now.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The way they always have, since the beginning of recorded history... Clingy and resistant

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Most normal ones would probably be fine with it.

These issues typically stem from men marrying women that they ignored red flags on that should have results in them being out of the relationship within the first 2 months.

 

[SW15]

Most guys with wives aren't spending much time with unattached, unmarried friends. They are more likely to see someone in a longer term, unmarried couple. These get togethers are often dual couple get togethers. Married couples in general spend more time with other married couples in dual couple get together.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My experience. I could get one Sat a month. Grudgingly.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Most guys with wives aren't spending much time with unattached, unmarried friends. They are more likely to see someone in a longer term, unmarried couple. These get togethers are often dual couple get togethers. Married couples in general spend more time with other married couples in dual couple get together.

That concept is BS and a load of crap. As a dude you should hang out with bachelors who lives a free life, one that is untamed, stable and balanced and undomesticated and also good with the ladies and people. You'll notice your testosterone level going up after a good time with a Biker friend or Indie rocker and joining in, in some of their adventures. Lol, you don't want to be stuck with your married Guy friends all the time in dinner parties dreading to watch some romantic comedy afterwards with popcorn lol haha that's typical suburban married life BS ya gotta moderately limit.

 

[SW15]

That concept is BS and a load of crap. As a dude you should hang out with bachelors who lives a free life, one that is untamed, stable and balanced and undomesticated and also good with the ladies and people.

I am that bachelor. It's a challenge to get my married male friends to show up for individualized social outings.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I am that bachelor. It's a challenge to get my married male friends to show up for individualized social outings.

Part of being human = Instinctively gravitating towards folks who are similar to ourselves. Thus cops and active duty military personell generally have little to no social contact with actors, sculptors, "artistic types" more generally. Same is true of marrieds and singles

 

[plumber]

That concept is BS and a load of crap. As a dude you should hang out with bachelors who lives a free life, one that is untamed, stable and balanced and undomesticated and also good with the ladies and people. You'll notice your testosterone level going up after a good time with a Biker friend or Indie rocker and joining in, in some of their adventures. Lol, you don't want to be stuck with your married Guy friends all the time in dinner parties dreading to watch some romantic comedy afterwards with popcorn lol haha that's typical suburban married life BS ya gotta moderately limit.

sort of... . If you want to do what you suggest just stay single. Women are supposed to follow there side of the arrangement and so are men. If we do what you tell, then it should be ok for the woman also. Would you want your woman in the hunting grounds alone; often. You can keep your test up with regulate body training.

We also should take care of the ones in our care, including the women. There are plenty of couples and families that like to be active together with other families. Doing things separate is ok and sometimes healthy, just remember the other person with you that also has a mind and heart that is not as stable as you are.

 

[SW15]

It's a challenge to get my married male friends to show up for individualized social outings.

It's difficult to get my married male friends to show up for any kind of individualized social outings.

It's understandable why a married male friend would not be interested in showing up for a Friday/Saturday late night event where they serve as a wingman for me at local bars. Most married men (including the ones I know) are men with a blue pill ideology. Most of them did not enjoy the bar scene prior to when they got married and most have no desire to re-visit that stage in their lives. Most married men fumbled and stumbled through their unmarried days, but were finally able to get some woman for something longer term. Most married men had a scarcity mentality in the pre-marriage days and did not experience an abundance of woman options. It wasn't a pleasant time for most of them. Additionally, even for the ones who had more abundance pre-marriage, they are become more beta as time progresses and they just want to live their house in the suburbs, 1.5 kids, beta male lifestyle. The pre-marriage betas are also wanting to do the whole "house in the suburbs, 1.5 kids, beta male lifestyle" thing too.

It's even difficult to get married men to show up for things that don't involve going to bars and chasing pussie. I have a great example of this below.

I have a long history of playing tennis. I have some married male friends who play tennis at similar levels to me. One married male friend is nearly impossible to pin down to play tennis for 2 hours either on a weekend (day or night) or on some weeknight after work. That's discouraging. There have been times where I have asked him to play tennis and he responds that he "has to check with his wife". WTH! Get some testicles, man! Your wife can deal with you being away for 3 hours while you meet a male friend for ~2 hours of tennis play.

Before these men got married, it was possible to play Best of 3 Sets tennis (typically 1.5 - 2.5 hours of play, depending on the game outcomes) or even Best of 5 Sets tennis (2.5 - 4 hours of play depending on game outcomes -- Best of 5 sets are what male players do in major tournaments). It was far more common to do Best of 3 Sets in those days based on time constraints. Even when these guys had committed girlfriends, they would be more likely to be able to commit to ~2 hours of tennis play.

Tennis isn't the only example of this for a lot of men.

Unmarried men can often struggle to meet their married male friends for weeknight bowling or occasional day long fishing trips as 2 other common examples.

A lot of male friendship surrounds doing some sort of activity like tennis, fishing, surfing, bowling, etc.