John_Taylor
Don Juan
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How do you know how aggressive you should be with a girl? Or that you 're better off pretending to be a little shy and let her chase you slightly?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
It's not really a paradox at all. I totally understand it. It's a different type of confidence with a focus on selfconfidence.iqqi said:I like shy guys. Especially if they also seem confident. An intriguing paradox.
If shyness was attractive I wouldn't have ever joined this board as I would be rolling in pvssy. One thing though. The definition of shy doesn't contain quiet. I thought the two went together.Dictionary.com said:Shy
–adjective
1. bashful; retiring.
2. easily frightened away; timid.
3. suspicious; distrustful: I am a bit shy of that sort of person.
4. reluctant; wary.
5. deficient: shy of funds.
6. scant; short of a full amount or number: still a few dollars shy of our goal; an inch shy of being six feet.
7. (in poker) indebted to the pot.
8. not bearing or breeding freely, as plants or animals.
–verb (used without object)
9. (esp. of a horse) to start back or aside, as in fear.
10. to draw back; recoil.
–noun
11. a sudden start aside, as in fear.
—Idiom
12. fight shy of, to keep away from; avoid: She fought shy of making the final decision.
[Origin: bef. 1000; late ME schey (adj.), early ME scheowe, OE scéoh; c. MHG schiech; akin to D schuw, G scheu; cf. eschew]
—Related forms
shyer, noun
shyly, adverb
shyness, noun
—Synonyms 1. Shy, bashful, diffident imply a manner that shows discomfort or lack of confidence in association with others. Shy implies a constitutional shrinking from contact or close association with others, together with a wish to escape notice: shy and retiring. Bashful suggests timidity about meeting others, and trepidation and awkward behavior when brought into prominence or notice: a bashful child. Diffident emphasizes self-distrust, fear of censure, failure, etc., and a hesitant, tentative manner as a consequence: a diffident approach to a touchy subject. 4. heedful, cautious, chary. 10. shrink.
—Antonyms 1. forward. 2. trusting. 4. careless. 10. advance.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
So that would make him the most confident shy person? Might need to figure out another analogy.Wolf said:In the same way you can be the tallest small person I'm guessing. Otherwise god knows
Wow that was really good. You do realize Interceptor that you threw the whole thread off-topic.Interceptor said:'Great, let me get your phone number.'
Is that how it happens?"
Beethoven: "Basically."
Juggler: "Are you asking her out on a romantic date or as
friends or what?"
Beethoven: "I presume she knows what it means."
Juggler: "Bad presumption. You are making your intentions
unclear so if she turns you down you can pass it off as a friendly invitation.
This is self-protection at its finest. The technical term
is weak-move. If she understands your romantic intention she
will think you gutless. If she doesn't, she will just be confused.
Either way it’s a lose-lose."
Beethoven: "Maybe, but surely she should know it was
romantic when we went out on our date. I washed my car and
wore cologne"
Juggler: "Yeah she probably got it. Attractive women like
her usually understand what's up. She knows you are playing it
safe and waiting for some type of sign from her that it's okay to
reveal your intent. This is called being murky. She hates these
murky dates. She knows the murky type of guy who will play the
whole date in this safe, murky place while he waits for her to
take the lead. This is very unsexy to a woman. Its the pimple of
dating techniques."
Beethoven: "Well, why did she agree to go out in the first
place if she knew it was going to be, as you say, murky?"
Juggler: "You took her by surprise. She was being friendly.
And once she was committed to being friendly she couldn't just
turn around and say no way Jose. Most women aren't that
strong. They can't even say the word no. She feared that telling
you how she felt would make it appear as if she had been
dishonest by being friendly. I know it doesn't make sense but
that is how many women think.
Now a woman in a different situation would just never
return your call or create some excuse. But this woman was in
your class. You had her cornered like a thirsty penguin on the
fourth of July. She had to keep up the charade and go through
with your 'date'.
But of course she was simply putting off the inevitable
rejection. She kept hoping you would get the idea she's not into
you in that special way. But you didn't want to take any hints.
You were persistent. Eventually she had to reject you. Usually
this involves her leaving an embarrassed voicemail after you
embossed your feelings for all time in a ten-line sonata. And now
you have spent so much time and mental energy on her that you
feel devastated. Is that how it goes?"
Beethoven: "Pretty much yeah.......
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Shyness really has to do with other ppl, whilst as Keto said, confidence tends to be about oneself.kdnash82 said:How in the world can you be both shy and confident when an antonym of shy is confident?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.