John_Taylor
Don Juan
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How do you know how aggressive you should be with a girl? Or that you 're better off pretending to be a little shy and let her chase you slightly?
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
It's not really a paradox at all. I totally understand it. It's a different type of confidence with a focus on selfconfidence.iqqi said:I like shy guys. Especially if they also seem confident. An intriguing paradox.
If shyness was attractive I wouldn't have ever joined this board as I would be rolling in pvssy. One thing though. The definition of shy doesn't contain quiet. I thought the two went together.Dictionary.com said:Shy
–adjective
1. bashful; retiring.
2. easily frightened away; timid.
3. suspicious; distrustful: I am a bit shy of that sort of person.
4. reluctant; wary.
5. deficient: shy of funds.
6. scant; short of a full amount or number: still a few dollars shy of our goal; an inch shy of being six feet.
7. (in poker) indebted to the pot.
8. not bearing or breeding freely, as plants or animals.
–verb (used without object)
9. (esp. of a horse) to start back or aside, as in fear.
10. to draw back; recoil.
–noun
11. a sudden start aside, as in fear.
—Idiom
12. fight shy of, to keep away from; avoid: She fought shy of making the final decision.
[Origin: bef. 1000; late ME schey (adj.), early ME scheowe, OE scéoh; c. MHG schiech; akin to D schuw, G scheu; cf. eschew]
—Related forms
shyer, noun
shyly, adverb
shyness, noun
—Synonyms 1. Shy, bashful, diffident imply a manner that shows discomfort or lack of confidence in association with others. Shy implies a constitutional shrinking from contact or close association with others, together with a wish to escape notice: shy and retiring. Bashful suggests timidity about meeting others, and trepidation and awkward behavior when brought into prominence or notice: a bashful child. Diffident emphasizes self-distrust, fear of censure, failure, etc., and a hesitant, tentative manner as a consequence: a diffident approach to a touchy subject. 4. heedful, cautious, chary. 10. shrink.
—Antonyms 1. forward. 2. trusting. 4. careless. 10. advance.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
So that would make him the most confident shy person? Might need to figure out another analogy.Wolf said:In the same way you can be the tallest small person I'm guessing. Otherwise god knows
Wow that was really good. You do realize Interceptor that you threw the whole thread off-topic.Interceptor said:'Great, let me get your phone number.'
Is that how it happens?"
Beethoven: "Basically."
Juggler: "Are you asking her out on a romantic date or as
friends or what?"
Beethoven: "I presume she knows what it means."
Juggler: "Bad presumption. You are making your intentions
unclear so if she turns you down you can pass it off as a friendly invitation.
This is self-protection at its finest. The technical term
is weak-move. If she understands your romantic intention she
will think you gutless. If she doesn't, she will just be confused.
Either way it’s a lose-lose."
Beethoven: "Maybe, but surely she should know it was
romantic when we went out on our date. I washed my car and
wore cologne"
Juggler: "Yeah she probably got it. Attractive women like
her usually understand what's up. She knows you are playing it
safe and waiting for some type of sign from her that it's okay to
reveal your intent. This is called being murky. She hates these
murky dates. She knows the murky type of guy who will play the
whole date in this safe, murky place while he waits for her to
take the lead. This is very unsexy to a woman. Its the pimple of
dating techniques."
Beethoven: "Well, why did she agree to go out in the first
place if she knew it was going to be, as you say, murky?"
Juggler: "You took her by surprise. She was being friendly.
And once she was committed to being friendly she couldn't just
turn around and say no way Jose. Most women aren't that
strong. They can't even say the word no. She feared that telling
you how she felt would make it appear as if she had been
dishonest by being friendly. I know it doesn't make sense but
that is how many women think.
Now a woman in a different situation would just never
return your call or create some excuse. But this woman was in
your class. You had her cornered like a thirsty penguin on the
fourth of July. She had to keep up the charade and go through
with your 'date'.
But of course she was simply putting off the inevitable
rejection. She kept hoping you would get the idea she's not into
you in that special way. But you didn't want to take any hints.
You were persistent. Eventually she had to reject you. Usually
this involves her leaving an embarrassed voicemail after you
embossed your feelings for all time in a ten-line sonata. And now
you have spent so much time and mental energy on her that you
feel devastated. Is that how it goes?"
Beethoven: "Pretty much yeah.......
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Shyness really has to do with other ppl, whilst as Keto said, confidence tends to be about oneself.kdnash82 said:How in the world can you be both shy and confident when an antonym of shy is confident?
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.