"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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How do you know when its a **** test

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1st post! How do you determine wether something said is a **** test or just say banter,and to take it as such.Iv read bits and pieces of advice,what im trying to say,albeit not very well,is when to dig in and call em out or when to laugh it off....because if you are to quick to ignore them that brings its own frame issues,but you can end up a doormat if you dont respond at all....whats the balance ??
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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First of all there has to be a certain level of attraction on her part. Otherwise she has no business sh*t testing you. Once you know she finds you attractive you look out for behavior that low-key grinds your gears. Stuff that you would never expect from a man. She'll try to question your masulinity or confidence; "You're smaller than I had expected", "That's a weird shirt", "I think you'd look better without a beard", "Have you ever thought about going bald?". That kinda sh*t.

Mind you, she'll only address these points if the characteristic at hand is rather ambiguous. If you are literally a midget, she probably won't talk about it. If you're about average height, she'll sniff out a possible hole in your confidence and test you there. Show her no holes, and you're good to go.
 

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Always pretend nothing phases you. If they see you butt hurt at any time, you've already lost. You got to have the better wit and comebacks lined up. Women are very keen on sniffing out your insecurities and confidence.

Some women will get butthurt themselves if you have the better comebacks and maybe even not see you again. But some will submit or tone down any $hit testing they may have had in store for you and gain a certain level of respect.
 

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Always pretend nothing phases you. If they see you butt hurt at any time, you've already lost. You got to have the better wit and comebacks lined up. Women are very keen on sniffing out your insecurities and confidence.

Some women will get butthurt themselves if you have the better comebacks and maybe even not see you again. But some will submit or tone down any $hit testing they may have had in store for you and gain a certain level of respect.
All that pretending has a cost. Perhaps at a certain level they won't be doing some of their bullshyt tests in the first place. Or maybe they are of the appropriate personality, maturity or trust level that they won't do that.
 

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All that pretending has a cost. Perhaps at a certain level they won't be doing some of their bullshyt tests in the first place. Or maybe they are of the appropriate personality, maturity or trust level that they won't do that.
I agree and I'm really referring to 1st or 2nd dates. This is when they're feeling you out as well since they don't really know you. If they can't gain any respect for you during this time, it's time to next them as why would anyone want to put up with that sort of behaviour?

Any guy that's constantly being $hit tested in a relationship is in the wrong one.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I agree and I'm really referring to 1st or 2nd dates. This is when they're feeling you out as well since they don't really know you. If they can't gain any respect for you during this time, it's time to next them as why would anyone want to put up with that sort of behaviour?

Any guy that's constantly being $hit tested in a relationship is in the wrong one.
Yea i agree 1st or 2nd date don't say nothing. But to always have to stuff your true feelings due to something they do is going to weaken a man.
 
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**** tests are what make you feel indirectly ribbed. you need to roll your eyes like a 6 year old is trying to sell you tap water.

The only problem i have with them, is EQUALITY women want equality but cant turn off their innate nature of what their attracted to

You as a male must take her as she is though.
 

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**** tests are what make you feel indirectly ribbed. you need to roll your eyes like a 6 year old is trying to sell you tap water.

The only problem i have with them, is EQUALITY women want equality but cant turn off their innate nature of what their attracted to

You as a male must take her as she is though.
Deal with babes who like your kind.
 

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Deal with babes who like your kind.
Im just having a rant lol, it boils my piss when i hear the word equality, sh4t tests prove there is no such thing as equality,

Women dont want to win, they want a winner.

No woman will seduce you after shes taught you to read & write
 

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Who the
Im just having a rant lol, it boils my piss when i hear the word equality, sh4t tests prove there is no such thing as equality,

Women dont want to win, they want a winner.

No woman will seduce you after shes taught you to read & write
Who the fvck is teaching men here to read and write?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Who the fvck is teaching men here to read and write?
Im on about sh4t tests, sh4t tests prove there is no such thing as equality,
so does asking a woman to teach you how to do something,

she kindly will, but all attraction bets will be off
 

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Im on about sh4t tests, sh4t tests prove there is no such thing as equality,
so does asking a woman to teach you how to do something,

she kindly will, but all attraction bets will be off
True
 

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"How do you know when its a **** test"


Poop has an unpleasant and distinctive smell. To train yourself, always have a whiff, after you drop a duce.

Other than that...stop gaming men in women's bodies.
 

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"How do you know when its a **** test"


Poop has an unpleasant and distinctive smell. To train yourself, always have a whiff, after you drop a duce.

Other than that...stop gaming men in women's bodies.
Dam. Thats what it is? And dysfunction and hoez?
 

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All that pretending has a cost. Perhaps at a certain level they won't be doing some of their bullshyt tests in the first place. Or maybe they are of the appropriate personality, maturity or trust level that they won't do that.
I agree. Pretending is hard to pull of seamlessly. But sh*t testing unfortunately never stops. If you're with the "right" woman and everything is on the perfect wave length, she'll still sh*t test you every now and then - literally until the end of your relationship. But I'd rather prefer sporadic sh*t testing over daily newsletter typa, passive aggressive bullsh*t.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I agree. Pretending is hard to pull of seamlessly. But sh*t testing unfortunately never stops. If you're with the "right" woman and everything is on the perfect wave length, she'll still sh*t test you every now and then - literally until the end of your relationship. But I'd rather prefer sporadic sh*t testing over daily newsletter typa, passive aggressive bullsh*t.
I think I'm lucky in the sense that it hasn't happened too much in my 17 year relationship, either that or I've been oblivious to most of it.

You have to get into the IDGAF attitude early on with someone and start off with a strong frame and never weaken is what I would say to anyone that wants to endure a long relationship. If you find $hit testing overpowering you and eating away at you, you need to talk about it with your significant other and if you two can't come to some resolution, then move on or threaten to leave.

Another thing I can talk to about long relationships is never stop with the push/pull technique. This doesn't apply in just getting sex, it applies to all facets of life with her. Pushing/pulling on anything will eventually plant the seed in them and gradually get them to see what you see or want. It's a form of brain washing or mental conditioning to have her come around to your way of thinking. Everything from getting a new boat, going on a trip you wanna go on, getting her to cook more, etc. When done properly, it will train women to be a certain way gradually and very subliminally over time.
 

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Being oblivious of that behavior is probably the best-case scenario. She thinks you're invincible and you don't get annoyed. In my opinion it's all up to what you want to get out of a relationship. If you want to have zero friction and a fun time, glide in and out of there. If you want a meaningful and authentic relationship with lumps and bumps, you have to put some work in and accept that there will be some sh*t testing.

Obviously, there are men out there wo don't give a f*ck how they are being treated. And I'm not talking about the good ol' IDGAF attitude. I'm talking about DWYWB attitude = Do whatever you want babe. Yes, I just made that one up. But you know those guys. They eat everything their woman throws at them. They don't speak up and couldn't care less about their masculinity and principles. In my eyes, having principles is more important than anything else.
 

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I'm talking about DWYWB attitude = Do whatever you want babe.
I would think it be more like DWYWH = Do whatever you want honey.
Because you know beta guys can't get away with calling their significant other "babe" without getting reprimanded for it. LOL :lol:
 

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I would think it be more like DWYWH = Do whatever you want honey.
Because you know beta guys can't get away with calling their significant other "babe" without getting reprimanded for it. LOL :lol:
Hahaha.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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