"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How do you guys deal with a girl that may find you attractive but is banging others

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Simple situation. One of the girls I work with has a cute friend (although definitely not the kind of girl I usually think is cute). She came into my work with my co-worker recently and I struck up a bit of convo with their group. She knew who I was immediately while I didn't recognize her at first (later remembered I met her at a party like 4-5 months ago). Anyway, I got the impression that she at least findse attractive (just from her tone of voice, but maybe I'm reading things wrong). Unfortunately I was working and only had a few opportunities to socialize with them.

Here's the issue, this girl is always dating different guys it seems. I know this one night she wanted her friends to meet the current guy she's banging. So I'm not really sure how to play this if I see her again (most likely I will). I guess I could ask my co-worker to get her friend over when I'm not working, maybe say I think her friend's cute. But who knows if she'll get in the way since her friend is banging some guy (plus I don't know how highly the girls I work with think of me, I know that they find me ****y and they claim it annoys them).

Really anything on this subject. Even if it has nothing specifically with this girl I'm sure this situation will come up again in the future.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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^Hey bud, take the initiative and take her out. So what if she's banging other guys. Its expected of a girl her age(late teens, early 20s) to want to get her freak on at times. If you just don't do anything, you dont have a chance at all. :)
 

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You are a virgin and want your first time to be special. You don't want to loose with with a girl that's banging other guys and probably has herpes or some STD (unless all the other guys are virgins like you are, but I doubt that).
You are better than this and are not that desperate. Make sure you have her STD-proofed if you do go for her - you never know if the last guy she banged had AIDS.

You don't want to be -- horray, I lost my virginity, pat yourself on the back, but now you got herpes or some nasty STD (if you are lucky to not get AIDS), and start marking the anniversary you lost it with genital warts and being in a hospital bed.
 

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corrector said:
You are a virgin and want your first time to be special. You don't want to loose with with a girl that's banging other guys and probably has herpes or some STD (unless all the other guys are virgins like you are, but I doubt that).
You are better than this and are not that desperate. Make sure you have her STD-proofed if you do go for her - you never know if the last guy she banged had AIDS.

You don't want to be -- horray, I lost my virginity, pat yourself on the back, but now you got herpes or some nasty STD (if you are lucky to not get AIDS), and start marking the anniversary you lost it with genital warts and being in a hospital bed.

Holy s***. Let me guess: you live in a bubble, right? Hyperbolic chamber?

P.S. reading my posts gives you chlamydia.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm not sure if corrector is a troll or some self-righteous virgin. Either way, I'm not thinking of this girl as just a way to lose my virginity. She's cute, and seems to be fun. However I have no idea how to compete with other guys, hence the question. I'm not interested in being told what STDs exist. As long as your safe (ie use a condom) the risks are reduced.
 

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Scion said:
As long as your safe (ie use a condom) the risks are reduced.
Not eliminated, and certainly it doesn't work well with herpes.
 

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Scion said:
I'm not sure if corrector is a troll or some self-righteous virgin. Either way, I'm not thinking of this girl as just a way to lose my virginity. She's cute, and seems to be fun. However I have no idea how to compete with other guys, hence the question. I'm not interested in being told what STDs exist. As long as your safe (ie use a condom) the risks are reduced.
Likely a troll. But he's more amusing than the others.
 

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Damnit, Iceberg, we've PMed each other.

I've got crabs now. :rockon:

And to be honest, I think corrector administers STD-tests to his hand right before he M-Baits. You know... to play it safe.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You should just do your best to present yourself well. Your lack of experience doesn't bode well for your ability to "compete". It's best if you start out with the mentality of "I'm going to put myself out there and see what happens" rather then trying to formulate some complex strategy of communicating with this girl or worrying yourself about what other guys she's seeing etc etc. Right now you're on the bottom floor because you're not even in consideration because you haven't done anything.

I recommend you keep it light. If you see her again just go talk to her yourself. I know this can be nerve racking but that's only because you have some false pretense of it being important when really it's what we do everyday. You've already spoken to her with no stress because you were doing what comes naturally. Get yourself in that mindset, talk to her about some random crap (work related or otherwise) ask her to coffee, get her number. Done and done. After you cross that threshold you can start thinking about other things but you need to get the ball rolling before anything else can happen.
 

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Yeah that's some good advice there PRMoon. I'll probably see her this wknd (her group of friends are big drinkers) although hopefully it's not when I'm with this other hottie that may be coming to see me.
 

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Don't worry if there's another girl there that you like. This is what i mean by over thinking. I know you're new to this stuff but you really gotta get out of that "these things are important" mindset. If there's another girl you like who's where ever you go, talk to her too. You're not proposing marriage to either of them so there's no pressure or consequence to anything you do. There's only the the false pretense that you place on yourself. And any real problems you do have later on aren't beyond your abilities and are typically more simple then you know. Make simple moves and things will work out fine. Easy does it.
 

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So saw this girl again tonight, unfortunately she had her boytoy clawing her all night so didn't get much opportunity to talk to her alone. Did chat with her and her group, she seemed oddly attentive to what I said. Just bs that I couldn't isolate her.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Lmao, don't worry, not looking to get married and have kids anytime soon (honestly don't think I even want kids, though that may change in the future).
 

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You deal with her the same way you deal with a girl that may find you attractive but is not banging others
 
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