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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

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You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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How do you get the damn vasectomy before 30

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I'm gonna be 24, next month. Little experience with women. I do know that waiting on a pregnancy test was the worst experience of my life.

I need to get this thing. I have a host of problems ranging from alcoholism to acne to mental disabilities... the whole gamut. I do not want another messed up brat running around.

I also do not want some girl getting pregnant. Ever. I'm cool with that.

I've approached a doctor on the subject. Laughed. Waste of my time. I went about it the wrong way, I'm sure. But it's gotta happen. I can't decide to **** a girl with this insecurity.

How do you do it? Doctors are ****ing brutal. They seem to rarely approve of a vasectomy before 40.

What. Do. You. Do. Please. Anyone who's ever gotten a vasectomy young, please explain to me how.
 

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I suggest looking around, I got one easily when I was 28, not because I have issues, in fact of every other guy I know, I would be a much better father, in a perfect world, I would love to be. I got it done right before I lost a bunch of weight, I knew loosing weight would help me get laid more often and I already had a couple scares so, I got it done, I suggest keep trying to find someone to do it. Where are you from? I know a dude in MN that would probably do it.

Keep in mid you might get flamed for this, but anyone who wants to bash, **** em, cause when you're 40 you'll be abl;e to do what ya want when ya want and have disposable income, while they will be in a downward spiral of baby momma drama, child support payments, etc/ anyone who would want to have a child or marriage with the women of today is out of their mind.

Congrads on making a smart decision, and so ya know, you'll heal fast, take it easy for a couple days than you're good to go, I notice NO difference what so ever, you still ejaculate, everything will seem the same, but you can rest assured you won't have to worry about knockin a ***** up. sure they can fail, but so can rubbers and birth control. But this has a higher effectiveness rate anyway.

If you have any questions, hit me a PM, but really, not much to tell you, sure your friends will laugh, mine sure did, but it'll be you who will have the last laugh down the road.
 

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Oh also try making up a story, tell them you have some issue with being able to support yourself, let alone a child, tell them you have a learning disability preventing you from going to school to land a good job, just something. I didn't make **** up.
 

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Just shop around, plenty of docs will do it for guys your age. Don't make up BS, just say that you've been wanting to do this for many years and have no interest in ever having children. Offer to sign a waiver saying that the decision is completely yours.
 

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Friend of mine got one at 19. Went to about 12 different doctors before he found one who would do it. He told each one how many he had been to before when they objected. One finally gave in. Numbers game.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Borknager said:
Keep in mid you might get flamed for this, but anyone who wants to bash, **** em, cause when you're 40 you'll be abl;e to do what ya want when ya want and have disposable income, while they will be in a downward spiral of baby momma drama, child support payments, etc/ anyone who would want to have a child or marriage with the women of today is out of their mind.
I see the value in a vasectomy myself; I've even seriously considered it. For the same reasons. Fear of getting the wrong girl pregnant -- witnessing unpleasant lives around me because a singe sperm slipped loose and drove it home and now his name is Harold.

But not all marriages suck. Not all people who have babies are going through drama or losing their life savings.

I do think the big issue a doc might want you to abstain or reconsider is look: how many 26 year olds have had some issues? How many 50 year olds here might say they went through some rough times in their younger years? Some of those guys may have even considered a vasectomy too--but eventually life transpired, they met a woman they validated and trusted...things didn't seem so dark anymore...

Acne can be resolved with diet and topicals and a variety of things (tea tree oil does some amazing things), alcoholism is something you can change in yourself! Both of these things you can probably do a lot to change!

That leaves on your list: mental issues. Well, welcome to the ****ing club called HUMANITY. Mental issues abound. Our society I am sure, and the nature of its construction or our values, has nothing to do with lunacy....ahem...we live in an odd place man...buildings and cars in abundance that no other window of humanity has ever experienced (think of this, these mega cities are really 100 years old in their scope of height and infrastructure) ... most all of humanity (estimated to be 300,000 y/o) has mostly lived with less than 1 billion people on the planet and a lack of jet aircrafts, etc. To not be a little mentally tweaked at times, by the nature of things here, I would say would be a greater indicator of mental issues.

Consider this: condom + birth control is going to be pretty damn close to effective.

On the other hand -- if you really think you've got issues, and you don't trust yourself enough to keep track of your sperm, than maybe you ought to have a vasectomy. It would seem in a world with overpopulation, docs shouldn't be pushing people away who want to prevent impregnation.

But I do know where you are coming from. All the drama of so many people and all of the babies screaming...jebus...maybe getting this thing snipped wouldn't be so bad, and there's always adoption yes?

I just know it is very easy to get one done -- and cheap -- but my research revealed about a 30% success rate in reversing a vasectomy, and it's not cheap -- maybe 3x the cost of the original procedure. So you ought to be damn damn sure this is what you want. I am at a place where I say -- okay -- I'm 26 -- 15 years from now I might regret this -- I might meet a really great woman worthy of my babies, and I might be in the right place mentally to do it.

BORK, I'm not knocking you here or vasectomies, I'm "just sayin" and I am curious how others perceive such a thing.
 

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I'd get one if it meant I could raw dog *****es. But because of STDs you have to wear a condom anyway so what's the point?
 

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Thanks for your help and supportive words, everyone.

Yo': It ain't 100% is why. Condoms fail. She could say she's on bc, actually not. She could (read: probably is) be ****ing some other dude. She could just be screaming nonsense. Number of factors.

Fact of the matter, I don't trust women. I don't need another fukked up brat in the populous.

Way I see it? You die, you're dead. You don't get to see the creations the the generation beyond you. You're gone, forgotten anyway. Future generations have no remembrance of you. Dead and gone away.

So you're 30, 35, 40. You have a kid. Provided you are married prior to conceiving (lol no). Lifetime commitment, if you're a decent person. If not? You're not commited? ****ed up child. No if, ands, buts. Ends up getting some other chick pregnant before he's 20. Said kid ends up with no father because he had no father before him. Cycle continues. ****ed up, miserable lives prevail.

Why? Why would you have a child? It's so selfish. I asked a girl why, once. She said so that SHE could care for the child. So that SHE could show her love. I told her the "SHE"'s implied some selfishness. She could not understand, and probably would never understand.

Why do people have children? Explain?
 

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rickyo i'm with you 100% man.

It always amuses me when people with children say that guys like us that just want to stay childless are selfish. What the ****!!!! WE are selfish? I have never understood that.

People don't have children for the child. Before they decide to have the child that child obviously doesn't even exist yet. It's impossible to argue that you're bringing a child into the world for its sakes. Parents are the most selfish ones of all. If they want to do something less selfish then adopt for God's sakes. Having a child is the ultimate form of egotism.

Maybe I will have a child one day (although it's unimaginable to me now) but i'm not going to kid myself I'm doing it for altruistic reasons.

Actually no **** that Im never having kids. I don't want to be one of those people going on about how special their child is and how much they love them. Oh really, you love your kid? How original. Big yawn.

Once you have kids your life revolves around them. Say goodbye to the fun, stimulating adult world we can live in and say hello to Disney, diapers, a bloated saggy titted tunnel c*nted wife and no sex for the rest of your life.
 

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Er, no offence to the fathers out there. If it makes you happy and completes you, etc good for you. It's just an equally valid choice not to have kids.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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Yo'Mama said:
I'd get one if it meant I could raw dog *****es. But because of STDs you have to wear a condom anyway so what's the point?
Yeah, this is how I see it. Think of any time that you bone a girl. the condom comes into play and then what do you do, say "I have a vasectomy, it's cool"? Awkward. And you'll probably need the condom anyway.

To each his own regarding whether or not to have kids and all that, but I figure you'll likely be using the condom anyway (aside from a serious relationship where she'll have the sense to get the morning after if there's a problem), so why bother?
 

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Wear a rubber, pull out when you blow, only fvck pro-choice chicks

Problem solved
 

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24 is still really young to make a life changing decision like that.
At 14 you were totally different than you are at 24 right?
Well at 34 you will probably think a lot different than you do at 24 and you may decide that kids are what you want. I wouldn't do something like that so young just be sexually responsible and you'll be fine.
 

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my cousin went into his family doctor and explained that his wife had finally gotten pregnant but that he only wanted one child and wanted the vasectomy done right away and was referred to a specialist that day. he made an appointment and went in and explained why he wanted it done, and they checked to see if his insurance covered part of it and they scheduled him for surgery within that month.
his wife, who wanted two children instead of just one, delivered twins via c section a few months later and had her tubes tied also.
i guess they decided that was enough for them and they were not going to take any chances.
i can tell you , no one gave him a hard time about it. everyone seemed to be happy for his choice and encouraged him to do what he felt was right. the only thing i remember being a "big ordeal" is that he was doing his procedure before their baby was born. if she would have miscarried, she may have left him because she did in fact want children. i can not even remember if they found out about the twin factor before or after he got it done.

so, maybe you should go in to your family/primary care doctor and ask for a referral to someone? call up your insurance provider and see what part of it they cover. if your insurance will cover most of it, you'd be surprized at how fast you can get it accomplished.
 

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Eventhough im 24. I was always interested in getting a vacetamy. I wouldnt mind adopting when ready but I dont want to get married. With a child of your own your forced to have the women in your life, wether you like her or not. Thats a decision i want to be able to make.
 

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Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

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Crissco said:
Eventhough im 24. I was always interested in getting a vacetamy. I wouldnt mind adopting when ready but I dont want to get married. With a child of your own your forced to have the women in your life, wether you like her or not. Thats a decision i want to be able to make.
you don't have to have children if you don't want any. if you seriously do not want kids, i suggest getting the procedure done now, before you find a woman who wants kids and doesn't want you to have the procedure.
 

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penkitten said:
you don't have to have children if you don't want any. if you seriously do not want kids, i suggest getting the procedure done now, before you find a woman who wants kids and doesn't want you to have the procedure.
its not that i really dont want children, i dont want to get married. i wouldnt mind raising a child on my own, a boy but the thought of marriage doesnt appeal to me at all bro. plus another me running around wouldnt be the best thing lol that why im all for adopting
 

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