How do you gain Value

[Iceberg]

Heh, no not a miracle.
Right now it seems impossible to become a high value male. One who has girls coming to him.

So these guys with super high value have "superhighvalue" for a reason, whether or not it looks like they worked hard on it.

Exactly. Maxtro, you are completely discrediting the hard work these guys put in to get to a point where women come easily.

Sure, we all knew some social, good-looking jock in high school who had life come easily to him. But there's a crap-load of men out there who decided to make their lives better through hard work.

Like in your earlier post you said that all you're good at is computers...that's not the point, man. Find something you want to be good at, and GET GOOD AT IT. You're not a dumb guy, but that's a pretty stupid thing to say. "I'm only good at computers. Oh well." You have a brain...use it to learn new things.

None of us are finished products. We all have the ability to raise or lower our stock every day.

 

[The Inside Man]

Let me just add...

I don't think value applies in every situation. Example: Let's say the star QB of a high school team approached a random girl in the mall. The girl he approached doesn't know he's a QB. That doesn't mean he doesn't have value, it means it's just not relevant to that situation.

I like the analogy, it helps turn a somewhat vague idea into a concrete example..

What gives the QB his value, whether he has internalized that he is a great ball player, tough, a warrior, just has the inner positive outlook that has been added to by achievement. I think inner value comes from standing for ideas you believe in, and trying to achieve things for yourself and/or others. If he has internalized value that has come from life experiences, he will carry that into any room.

If his perceived value comes from being under the lights with all eyes on him, his jersey, his helmet, the roar of the crowd and the cheerleaders smiling, then he may not feel that he has value outside of his environment.

I guess the key would be to develop inner value (easier said than done, I think it can be a lifelong process with hills and valleys).

 

[bluenorther]

When you have what other people want or need, THAT is value. If they don't want it, or it's something meaningless, there is no value.

I took up blacksmithing-- shoeing horses for a living. All of my clients are women. Does that sound like high value? Probably not, huh? The work is dirty, difficult, and dangerous. Not a lot of people can do it.

Some guys in this work pull in 6 figures. I'm not one of them, too bad.

ALL my clients are women.

I've become very good at this work, and I routinely succeed where others have given up or failed.

Did I tell you, ALL of my clients are women?

One of my recent clients, a very cute 5th grade schoolteacher, came to me in tears with her lame Thoroughbred ex-racehorse. I was able to get her horse back on the trail.
I had just re-affirmed my Hero status. I have VALUE.
Her horse would've happily killed me.
I was wondering how far I could work this one, until I read TWO names on the check she gave me...

My last ex was also a client, and her friends thought we'd be awesome together. Everything she told them about me just made me sound better. After four months of awesome sex, she pulled the plug, gave me the "I need time" talk.
Today, I have no value at her riding stable.

 

[xdreamz]

value

from an artist's standpoint...value comes from 5 basic things. i don't remember all of it because i am actually bad at remembering things and bad at focusing but a big one that people should know is contrast. contrast creates value. if you look at a painting when you see light mixed with dark you have a more 3 dimensional feel. those are the signals you want to create. so let's say you're perceived as a real nice guy, then to add value to yourself you say something really mean to give yourself more of a balance, more of a depth to your character.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

I agree with GHO,

If I've done some exceptional canvas painting for a posh gallery in the city centre, I'd have my own added value within that market. That, however is not helping me gain value on first impressions with a ADHD party-chick that I want to rail. It comes down to market-value. Where can I utilize my best assets the most and gain from it. Thats why having a passion for something or a few things is strongly one of my sticking points.

 

[Allurre]

To make things easier for everyone.

Gaining value can be summed up as to IMPROVING YOURSELF, in whatever way possible.

Most importantly, you shoudl VALUE yourself (self-respect, love).