How do you expect to get quality 8's and above if you aren't an 8 or above yourself?

[The411]

If you don't dress well with style, don't groom your best, get frustrated easily, don't work out, aren't able to converse with chicks and different types of people in being socially free and well versed in different topics, are too pushy and or controlling, have other unaddressed personal issues, and don't have the looks to get you in the door in the first place, can you seriously expect to get quality 8's and above or are you just deluding yourself?

Why not make those changes for yourself first, and then worry about getting high quality chicks?

 

[mangotot]

I think courage plays a massive part in that you go for it and secondly believe that you deserve her. Society teaches you that unless you have looks status or money you are not worthy of women rated 8+. You end up believing that bull**** and as a result don't approach or don't think you are worth it.

I'd say sod all that and just go for it.

 

[backbreaker]

I think courage plays a massive part in that you go for it and secondly believe that you deserve her. Society teaches you that unless you have looks status or money you are not worthy of women rated 8+. You end up believing that bull**** and as a result don't approach or don't think you are worth it.

I'd say sod all that and just go for it.

Straight out of the PUA handbook lol

Look, a guy who is not in the top 20% of eligible men available is not worthy of a woman who is in the top 20% of eligible women available no more than than a guy who makes 35k is not worthy of living in that swanky 3k a month condo downtown, just like the guy with a 500 credit score is not worthy of .09% interest rate on the new car he wants to buy


The quickest and easist way to constantly sleep with hot women is to become a catch.


AS the 411 pointed out there is more nuance to being " a catch" then "looks status money". Being able to go on a date and entertain her. Being able to talk to a woman and make her laugh. knowing how to groom and dress yourself

Why not make those changes for yourself first, and then worry about getting high quality chicks?

Because it requires work.


The sad thing is, that should be music to every man on this forums ears. You control your own density. You can become a catch. With some discipline and hard work you can in due time mold yourself into a man that women fight over. But nah. It's much easier to shot gun chicks on tender and to hope beyond hope that a girl that's hot overlooks the fact that you aren't ambitious, you're out of shape, you have no style and gives you a blow job becuase you did not respond to her text for 24 hours lol.

 

[The411]

Straight out of the PUA handbook lol

Look, a guy who is not in the top 20% of eligible men available is not worthy of a woman who is in the top 20% of eligible women available no more than than a guy who makes 35k is not worthy of living in that swanky 3k a month condo downtown, just like the guy with a 500 credit score is not worthy of .09% interest rate on the new car he wants to buy


The quickest and easist way to constantly sleep with hot women is to become a catch.


AS the 411 pointed out there is more nuance to being " a catch" then "looks status money". Being able to go on a date and entertain her. Being able to talk to a woman and make her laugh. knowing how to groom and dress yourself



Because it requires work.


The sad thing is, that should be music to every man on this forums ears. You control your own density. You can become a catch. With some discipline and hard work you can in due time mold yourself into a man that women fight over. But nah. It's much easier to shot gun chicks on tender and to hope beyond hope that a girl that's hot overlooks the fact that you aren't ambitious, you're out of shape, you have no style and gives you a blow job becuase you did not respond to her text for 24 hours lol.

Seriously.

It's like these dudes will see one or a few average or below average dudes or some loser they actually know dating some 8 or above and then assume either the chick is some great catch based off her looks or the dude is "great" with EVERY 8+ so they figure "f it" I'm just going to be me and run around like a lunatic trying to convince every 8+ I'm worth it because I've seen some 8 before with someone "lesser" than me.

If you want chicks who only play in the looks league you've gotta be in that looks league.

Same with the money league.

Same with status.

That's IF you are looking to get chicks whom that is important to.

But knowing that most hot chicks get hit on constantly by other men they might want to not just think running around trying to "game" these chicks automatically = these chicks find them sexually attractive and "catches".

You have to make yourself actually be a catch. But not specifially to "get" those types of chicks, you have to do it for yourself, this way you are ahead of the game in that you could at that point care less if some chick accepts you or not. You'll have improved to be the best you can be for yourself and won't be angry/frustrated if some broad isn't into you for whatever reason.

To sit there and do nothing but expect to use lines and some Jedi mind manipulation constantly thinking chicks aren't going to see through that eventually or not give a damn from jump as you really have nothing to offer them but an act, that facade will either crumble or get too tiresome for you to maintain.

 

[needexc]

To sit there and do nothing but expect to use lines and some Jedi mind manipulation constantly thinking chicks aren't going to see through that eventually or not give a damn from jump as you really have nothing to offer them but an act, that facade will either crumble or get too tiresome for you to maintain.[/QUOTE]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.

It's about you being you. And you being happy and secure about YOU.

 

[IBreatheSpears]

I don't really know what it is you think you're getting at, what ground you think you're breaking, because I've always seen people on this site recommending self-improvement and being well-groomed over using "Jedi mind tricks". By "mind manipulation" I think you're referring to techniques like NLP, but the fact is, NLP is simply a way of making your speech more interesting, and game is just learned charisma. It's not a façade - in order to charm people you have to actually be charming, so it's not an act. You can't fake it; you have it or you don't, and if you don't, you can, to an extent, learn it.

There are some people on this forum who never seem to learn, but they're either trolls or losers so steeped in self-pity that nothing will budge them from the comfortable hole they've dug themselves into, certainly not this thread.

 

[Electro67]

Become the man you want to be and you'll attract the right kind of women.

 

[MOTU]

It's about you being you. And you being happy and secure about YOU.

Respectfully disagree. It's about becoming a BETTER YOU. We get to choose who we are, to a large extent. If YOU are satisfied in a dead end job, living in your parents basement, sitting on the couch playing video games, don't expect to be banging hot chicks - no matter how tight your game is.

 

[marmel75]

I think courage plays a massive part in that you go for it and secondly believe that you deserve her. Society teaches you that unless you have looks status or money you are not worthy of women rated 8+. You end up believing that bull**** and as a result don't approach or don't think you are worth it.

I'd say sod all that and just go for it.

Most guys would be shocked at what they could get if they just went for it...

 

[The411]

Most guys would be shocked at what they could get if they just went for it...

Not if they FIRST aren't becoming their best self. Working out, grooming, dressing with style, working or doing good in school, being socially free and open, being a good conversationalist and listener, having or creating soild positive social circles and building a solid inner core first. THEN worry about chicks and moving up in "levels".

Not faking it and just going for it as if they don't have their core built solid in the first place they aren't going to truly be confident and will have to try and maintain an act which will get seen through quick or they'll end up frustrated, angry and resentful as they are relying on some chick to validate them and compensate for their own failures in life.