How do you distinguish normal insecurity from dealing with a Cluster B?

[tesla8520]

All women are a little insecure, but how do you distinguish normal insecurity from having a cluster b disorder woman?

We often talk about red flags, but no one goes into the specifics of understanding what separates a woman from cluster B, borderline, bipolar, etc., from a woman who is just a little anxious, like all the others.


So it would be nice to list 5 major and most important signs

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Through experience.

 

[Prepostereax]

Many cluster-B red flags aren't detectable until you're hooked in deep.

Love bombing is something that some of them do.

Self destructive behaviour, which could be literal (eg cutting - wrists is a classic sign, but some do it in concealed spots eg inner legs. Also cutting their own hair, in a detractive fashion).
But any self-destructive behaviour is a danger klaxon (eg getting into debt to the point they get eviction or repossession notices)

Also getting into squabbles with friends/family/roomies/ exes

Drug usage and other criminal behaviour (eg theft, assault)

But do you really need to ask?
If you come across a snake, does it matter whether it's an adder, a viper, or a cobra?

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi tesla,
You interact with one and it wont be long before you find out,you wont need to ask five questions,they are only a few percentage of Women so Don't confuse them with the emotional tantrums you encounter from time to time...Give you an example,in my Pussified days I spent the weekend rewiring the back lights on a Plates car,rang and told her I was dropping over with it,she then asked me would I bring a Roast Dinner with me!!!I did...When she saw the Dinner,a platter with a small leg of Lamb and roast Veg around it...She just exploded with Fury,chucked the Roast in her Sink and told me I had deliberately insulted her as I knew she and her dratted Son never ate anything with a face on it ...She then told me to leave,16 miles from home,so I had to get a Taxi home.

 

[BaronOfHair]

All women are a little insecure, but how do you distinguish normal insecurity from having a cluster b disorder woman?

She pulls crap like this

Despite seeming like a cool chick elsewhere

Dunno if any of this counts as Cluster B, nonetheless such antics are undeniably c-n-y

 

[viking22]

Men should always listen to their nervous system. If you feel uncomfortable around a woman or as if you are always walking on eggshells that is a good sign to steer clear.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I copied a text thread in a few weeks ago you can go try and read, it’s pure cluster B

 

[Lauel]

Men should always listen to their nervous system. If you feel uncomfortable around a woman or as if you are always walking on eggshells that is a good sign to steer clear.

True. The girl I am with used to be all good and shiny. Each day I feel like I walk on eggshells. She definitely isn't normal, and some moments I get afraid for my things.
Heard my system, packaging my bags and making my distance from her. Slowly and gradually till I am out.

 

[intricate design]

if she tells you about being raped by anyone else it’s going down that road

if her dad committed suicide it’s going down that road

like another mentioned: if she has cutting scars it’s going down that road

if she takes anti depressants it’s going down that road

if she has done interracial relationships it’s definitely going down the road of no return

 

[The Duke]

Here are some real world hallmark signs I've seen first hand from the crazy ones:

-Frequent/Heavy drinker. And its almost always vodka.
-Can't make up her mind if she wants to go out with you or not.
-2hrs late for first date and it doesn't bother her at all to keep you waiting.
-Starts changing her clothes in your vehicle on the first date.
-Anti-depressants by the night stand or in her bathroom.
-Daddy issues.
-Angry at her mom.
-Invites you to her place for sex even tho you have never gone out before.
-Entitled.
-Invites you over for first date and her kids are present.
-Love bomber.
-Stripper
-She moves from city to city for brief stints and you aren't real sure what she does for a living.
-She doesn't own a car.
-Over 200 empty wine bottles on the kitchen counter!
-Shopping addiction. Traveling addiction.
-Travels by herself.

There is nothing you can analyze and use to separate general insecurity from insecurity related to cluster b behavior issues. But what I have listed above is very very common across the board with the crazy cluster b types. And don't think because she exhibited one or two of what I listed above that she is crazy.

It takes experience and knowledge to know for sure.

You see her display these signs, make sure your eyes are open.

 

[tesla8520]

But do you really need to ask?
If you come across a snake, does it matter whether it's an adder, a viper, or a cobra?

Each of them has a similar effect on you, but once you recognize the shape, you will get it..

If you want to recognize the shape, you need to have some red flags with you.
Over time you will be able to see better.
The older you get, the more you will associate the fact that a woman who has had a good family, children, etc. is not a viper, when in reality she is.
You can't rely on what she got..
Association bias

 

[tesla8520]

Hi tesla,
You interact with one and it wont be long before you find out,you wont need to ask five questions,they are only a few percentage of Women so Don't confuse them with the emotional tantrums you encounter from time to time...Give you an example,in my Pussified days I spent the weekend rewiring the back lights on a Plates car,rang and told her I was dropping over with it,she then asked me would I bring a Roast Dinner with me!!!I did...When she saw the Dinner,a platter with a small leg of Lamb and roast Veg around it...She just exploded with Fury,chucked the Roast in her Sink and told me I had deliberately insulted her as I knew she and her dratted Son never ate anything with a face on it ...She then told me to leave,16 miles from home,so I had to get a Taxi home.

Cool! Thanks for sharing your exp.

What do you think about this? A friend of mine had a relationship with this woman, who then cheated on him and he dumped her, but then she stalked him, until she made him a cake for his birthday, but when he rejected her, she threw it in his face.
Or when another friend of mine bought his girlfriend a ring, he spent €2,000, and as soon as she saw it, she said, "What the hell is this old ****?"

Are these two examples of cluster B?

 

[tesla8520]

Men should always listen to their nervous system. If you feel uncomfortable around a woman or as if you are always walking on eggshells that is a good sign to steer clear.

Ok cool! Yes, I totally agree.
This is how I feel with my father..

@viking22 So please tell us more on how you should feel

Also could it be you can feel like that times to times, but not everytime?

 

[tesla8520]

I copied a text thread in a few weeks ago you can go try and read, it’s pure cluster B

Ok could you link that back?

 

[tesla8520]

if she tells you about being raped by anyone else it’s going down that road

if her dad committed suicide it’s going down that road

like another mentioned: if she has cutting scars it’s going down that road

if she takes anti depressants it’s going down that road

if she has done interracial relationships it’s definitely going down the road of no return

What about she it's in theraphy because she think her family it's toxic?

 

[tesla8520]

It takes experience and knowledge to know for sure.

Man you know, I met this woman way back before, now she have kids and a family, she also work in a job.
No one would know she's B but I know for sure.
She's so crazy, everything she got in life, it's just appeareance of a good girl

 

[Scaramouche]

Cool! Thanks for sharing your exp.

What do you think about this? A friend of mine had a relationship with this woman, who then cheated on him and he dumped her, but then she stalked him, until she made him a cake for his birthday, but when he rejected her, she threw it in his face.
Or when another friend of mine bought his girlfriend a ring, he spent €2,000, and as soon as she saw it, she said, "What the hell is this old ****?"

Are these two examples of cluster B?

Hi Tesla,
The second Girl is a Gold Digger,hope he kept the Ring,Two grand in Euros is a lot of hoot....The first one sounds a classic Cluster B...You need to educate these Guys.

 

[intricate design]

What about she it's in theraphy because she think her family it's toxic?

I dunno. a lot of times bad women don’t want therapy at all. It’s the nicer kinder women that wind up in therapy

but the truth is toxic women can be addictive especially if they’re hotties and sexy. our best weapon is to have a secret side woman so that no one woman can yield so much power over us. When she knows you have limited options to screw another babe she leverages that like a war strategist

 

[tesla8520]

.You need to educate these Guys.

This is the average man nowadays.
What he did after?
He actually accept her back, start a new relationship, and He "looked after her" and "care about her" more.
Like "She needed more attentions" from him.
That is totally miserable.

Now I do understand why women "stay" with those man, because they're both miserable, and no one would keep them in a relationship

 

[tesla8520]

but the truth is toxic women can be addictive especially if they’re hotties and sexy.

I think so. If She's a cluster b, then sex must be so performative and so that is actually what narcisists and sociopatic man look for.
But not what a normal/real man would pursue.

I dunno. a lot of times bad women don’t want therapy at all. It’s the nicer kinder women that wind up in therapy

Not really sure about this.. would you say more?