"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
How do you deal with girls that just want to be "friends"?
- Thread starter teddy
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
abe0
Senior Don Juan
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Men with options who are spinning plates don't have time to be a faggot beta orbiter for some arrogant attention wh0re.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
TheGambino
Master Don Juan
Chasing a girl that's giving you a hard time in any way isn't worth your time.
And tbh, I was friendzoned many times in the past coz the girls liked my company but I never made moves or was sexual so that was my own mistake. If you make sexual jokes, kino her, kiss her, seduce her, basically making moves you can't be friendzoned coz every girl will feel you want to nail her. She either goes along with it or comes up with excuses, flakes or ignores you (NO INTEREST). They will go ghost on you or bang you, it's that easy man. Guys friendzone themselves.
If you want this girl you gotta make moves. Hook up, kino, tease, escalate. It's that easy, if she refuses or declines or says 'stop were just friends' you either accept that if you can handle it and you keep her around so she can introduce you to her friends. Or you just cut contact, you reply very short and always be busy when you see her or she contacts you. She will eventually feel like you got other women in your life going on and stop chasing you. Whatever happens this girl is giving you a hard time so do what works best for you, she's toying with ya
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Case closed.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
JohnChops
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So if you're her friend you're automatically a level 60 beta orbiter? Ahaha. OP if you want to be friends with them then be friends with them. If you get friend zoned then stopped talking to them.PlayHer Man said:
Simple.
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Good one bro.....lolskinnyguy said:
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Let them try. Why would you care what a woman you're not f*cking thinks?teddy said:
That's a serious question you should ask yourself.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
For the majority of us, we find that en exhausting waste of time.
Next time just say you can't make it because you met a new chick and she's treating you to a night of hot, wild hotel sex. Give zero details and say you gotta go. No details when they ask about it later, either.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.