"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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How do you behave with your female friends?

CoolRunning

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I'm completely socially uncalibrated, and am just gaining female friends for the first time in my life. These aren't girls who LJBFd me, they're girls who I met in various activities and things, and we started hanging out with the same group - I have never sarged them and in fact some of them are in relationships. All in all cool people.

So, I'm wondering how you behave with female friends like this.

1) Do you flirt at all, tease eachother, comment on eachothers' looks, etc? Can you give examples of what would generally be "OK" and what would be "over the line"?

2) Any kino at all? Like say if I'm watching a movie with one of them, is it okay to lean on eachothers' shoulder? OK to put my arm around them while say walking? OK to grab hand on the dance floor and dance with them? OK to throw them down and tickle them? I'm assuming that more kino than with guy friends is acceptable, but not sexual type kino.

3) If one of them offers to wing you when you're all out together, do you take them up on it (and therefore let them see you as a sexual being)?

Any help appreciated.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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PeeGee

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I take it from your wording that you mean a female that either we have no attraction towards or can do much better (or females that we feel we can't get with, however beta this).

I treat them like any other women, but without the attempt to shag.
 

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Yeah. I enjoy hanging out with them, some of them are attached already, and I don't want to weird it up by hitting on them because as a newly minted DJ, I know I can get women anywhere :D

Can you go into specifics about how you treat other women w/o the attempt to shag?
 

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all about being natural

I have a ton of female friends...all with varying degrees of personalities, but the one key among them is that neither of us have a sexual interest in one another. This key attribute means that no matter how much physical contact we have it doesn't mean anything so the physical interaction is natural. Case in point my best friend is a chick, always gives me hugs, demand hugs, smacks my ass, i'll put my arm over her a bunch of times...i don't even think about it. With another one, i'll sometimes pat her belly and tease her since she used to be chubby. However if I did that with some of other female friends they would think something is weird (so would I) because we don't interact like that. When you get into a true friends zone with a girl, you don't even think about the physical interaction. It should just be natural and case specific.
 

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Having some female friends is fine, healthy and usually awesome when it comes to going shopping. Bring them with you :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If I pick a female to be a FRIEND (as a true friend)...then I view her as a sister.

If I have an interest in a female...I would not make her my friend. I would make her an acquaintance. And I would flirt with that one. In fact, she will know that I have an interest.
 

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If she's a woman she's fair game for my flirting... ;)
 

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I don't make anything a big deal when i'm around my friends who are girls. especially my girlfriend's girlfriends (that made sense). I don't want to come off like i'm flirting with them or else i'll hear about it later. Plus, it's good practice just to talk to them without the intentions of sex.
 

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the cool thing is, the casualness and comfortableness you have with these females friends will also carry over to when you DO meet someone you are attracted to..but without the nerves and anxiousness of how to act when you around them.You have nothing to worry about, you've been around girls before a million times and you are comfortable with them..

i treat my girls as friends just like guy friends..we just talk about different things and do different things,i also kinda like having the feeling of being like a brother or protector of them..
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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organizedconfusion said:
the cool thing is, the casualness and comfortableness you have with these females friends will also carry over to when you DO meet someone you are attracted to..but without the nerves and anxiousness of how to act when you around them.You have nothing to worry about, you've been around girls before a million times and you are comfortable with them....
Bingo! :up:
 

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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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johnmich

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my female mates (haha not a lot of em) i jus chat with em about stuff. Just how you act with any girl you meet but without the attempts at them. I suppose you could flirt a little unless in a realationship.

Also, like organised confusion said you get confortable around them. My best mates bird is pretty fine and i was a bit nervous but im now really comfortable around her. i suppose that helps with other birds
 
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