How do you all even have the motivation to still go after women

[SirFratserlot]

American women are demons, it is like playing with fire

 

[Zarky]

yes because every woman (and man) in any given country is exactly the same as every other one!

 

[foreverAFC]

i actually lost all motivation to pursue women, and things are actually better, i focused on myself instead and now i dont feel any pressure around women, even very attractive ones, and that actually has helped me interact with them more now that im more laid back and not as concerned with all the lame behaviors they exhibit since im not expecting anything anyway

 

[Decoy]

Losing motivation with women is normal, especially if you had run of bad dates. It happens. However, it should not stop you from continuing to date them. You will not gain motivation or have better success with women if you don't put yourself out there. Working on yourself is a given, regardless of women. When someone says that, they are making an excuse for why they aren't having that success.

Dating women is when your character, charm, wit, etc. are being put to the test. If you have built a solid foundation for yourself, you will be naturally able to attract them. Dating is challenging and that's what makes it fun.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The key is to see women as being, at best, of secondary importance in your life (i.e. second to your family, career, education, hobbies and other things that matter), not being outcome dependent, not trying hard to impress women and generally not putting a lot of effort into chasing women.

 

[SirFratserlot]

I just do not even want to talk to them. If one approaches me i usually just say a simple hey and walk away. Why should I even bother when most of them think im air and others play games?

 

[bigneil]

American women are demons, it is like playing with fire

True, but use it to your advantage. They have to cheat on someone with someone else, why not you?

 

[Sofomore]

No need to hate on women. I fvcking love them. Yes they can be manipulative and fvck you over but that's why you can't take them seriously. Hit it, have fun and know that all relationships come to an end.

If you are getting fed up just take a couple weeks off and focus on yourself. Once you stop masturbating you will get your motivation back. Especially if a fine girl with a fat a$$ walks by you.

 

[Big Nuts]

Simple: I like the smell, feel, taste of p00n!

 

[SamTheHobit]

The key is to see women as being, at best, of secondary importance in your life (i.e. second to your family, career, education, hobbies and other things that matter), not being outcome dependent, not trying hard to impress women and generally not putting a lot of effort into chasing women.

I'm starting to see this as more and more relevant these days.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I tend to agree with Bokanovsky but honestly Im in doubt about seeing women as a secondary objective while at the same time using their quantity and quality as benchmark to my value.

Let's be honest women are like sport cars in many ways, they are a sign of success.

However I have no problem for example to pay a woman to suck my c0ck if I have the desire, I dont feel a loser for that, but at the same time I feel good when I score a one night stand even outside the libido/satisfaction side.

Let me be clear is not that particular woman, but women in general just like sport cars.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I tend to agree with Bokanovsky but honestly Im in doubt about seeing women as a secondary objective while at the same time using their quantity and quality as benchmark to my value.

You shouldn't use women as a benchmark of your value. Think of all the great men whose names are remembered centuries if not millennia after their deaths (i.e. anyone from Julius Ceasar to Einstein). They are all remembered for their accomplishments, not for how many HB8+'s they've banged.

Using women as a benchmark of your value is AFC as fuq. It's like pitting a woman on a pedestal...except you are putting the entire female sex on a pedestal. Don't be that guy.

 

[JoeMarron]

Everyone has posted gold. There's no need to hate women, just be amused by their nature. Just like you would laugh at a child doing something silly, laugh it off when a woman does it and move on with your life.

 

[VikingKing]

I don't right now. I'm to busy working and learning how to do my new job, and getting myself in school, dealing with quitting drugs, and fixing the mess ive made due to the poor decisions ive made.

Once I've made my life more secure and stable, get a few accomplishments under my belt, and I see the value in myself, I will consider, if she is good enough, to allow a woman to join my life. Or women.

 

[The_411]

Better question is why you hate women for following their biology? They are wired differently than men. Women act duplicitous because they are wired to do so. All it takes is putting energy into those wires to cause her to cheat etc.

 

[VikingKing]

Better question is why you hate women for following their biology? They are wired differently than men. Women act duplicitous because they are wired to do so. All it takes is putting energy into those wires to cause her to cheat etc.

cognitive dissonance. we were taught woduplicitousen are good, and pure and honest.

 

[Jack89]

The crap woman give you is all part of the game, just like how you can't have success with out failure. If you stopped and pictured the girls as 5 year olds when they giving you crap you would realized you can't take them seriously.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You shouldn't use women as a benchmark of your value. Think of all the great men whose names are remembered centuries if not millennia after their deaths (i.e. anyone from Julius Ceasar to Einstein). They are all remembered for their accomplishments, not for how many HB8+'s they've banged.

Using women as a benchmark of your value is AFC as fuq. It's like pitting a woman on a pedestal...except you are putting the entire female sex on a pedestal. Don't be that guy.

My point is not to be desired from a woman the benchmark, but the fact of being able to score women therefore the need to prove yourself that you can.

Not sure if I explained my self well, but consider this a professional with a good income and a great physical shape and inner game is succesful according to most standards and is very likely able to score women.

A guy which lives in a basement with a beer belly and play warcraft all day is not what we consider succesful, hardly this guy could get any woman.

There are many examples in between but scoring women is a benchmark no different than being able to buy the sport car that you want.
Its not the women or the car to make your value, they are just a demostration of it, thats what I meant.

 

[zekko]

Its not the women or the car to make your value, they are just a demostration of it, thats what I meant.

I know what you're saying. If you are a high value guy, women should be interested in you. If you build your life, women should come along with it.
If you are confident and fit, with the right attitude, women should be attracted to that.

It's very in vogue right now to say that you shouldn't use women as a barometer of your success, and that's valid reasoning. But on the other hand, consistently not being able to get women can be indicative of a deeper problem. Not that you have to be a player by any means, but if you are living your life as a chode, chances are there are some changes you could make. Changes that would most likely benefit you in many ways, not just with women. Just like if you're grossly overweight, it would benefit you to get in shape.