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How do you “pick up women” if you’re ugly?

forcerecon01

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I’m for real, and no I’m not trying to solicit yours or anyone else’s sympathy, I don’t want it, nor do I need it.

You see, insensitive comments like yours, just proves there’s is no “Seduction community”, because real communities help and support their members, they don’t gang up on them and ask them to be banned just because they disagree with your world view.
Do you feel you are an incel?
 

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I have some unattractive friends. Those who got girls mostly did social circle. Work. Or college. Unattractive guys can get women. But it’s not going to happen through cold approach. clubs/bars. OLD. It has to happen over time in an environment where she can get to know you. SS. Work. Classes… I’ve seen it happen.
That’s true, but it’s getting harder because female hypergamy is off the charts, even unattractive women are demanding Chads and Tyrones.
 

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Do you feel you are an incel?
Yes and no, I do get laid regularly, but I have to pay the ugly tax (ie.I have to pay a mature lady of the night). But I’m lucky as sex work is legal in Australia, and l live in Sydney which has the best brothels in Australia, and the hookers I see give me the most passionate XXX rated porn star sex a man could hope for.
 

forcerecon01

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Yes and no, I do get laid regularly, but I have to pay the ugly tax (ie.I have to pay a mature lady of the night). But I’m lucky as sex work is legal in Australia, and l live in Sydney which has the best brothels in Australia, and the hookers I see give me the most passionate XXX rated porn star sex a man could hope for.
understandable.....Australia is a lot harder to mate than the U.S. too
 

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I have some unattractive friends.
Then you need better friends. None of my friends are ugly, that wasn't by choice, they just filter themselves out. Step your life game up.
 

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Yes and no, I do get laid regularly, but I have to pay the ugly tax (ie.I have to pay a mature lady of the night). But I’m lucky as sex work is legal in Australia, and l live in Sydney which has the best brothels in Australia, and the hookers I see give me the most passionate XXX rated porn star sex a man could hope for.
Ugly tax? Ok.
 

zekko

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And it can prevent you from screwing up a sure thing by saying/doing stupid stuff. (There's tons of guys who post online stuff like "she slept naked in my bed should I have made a move?")
This is the main thing, IMO. There are certain things you can and can't do with women, not all of which are intuitive. I had to learn them through trial and error, because in my day we didn't have the internet. I'm sure the girls were more forgiving at the time, but the principles were there. Sometimes it could get pretty ugly lol.
 

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The fact that you based your self worth on your looks is going to be the biggest crutch, simply because you will never be good looking. History is full of dominant yet ugly men who clean up. They just simply anchored their self worth on something else.

And here’s a good news, masculinity isn’t 100% looks. You can be ripped. You can be rich and influential. You can be the best salsa dancer in a room full of women. You can be a lot of things that have nothing to do with having a cute face.
 

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Yes, when a man is forced to pay for sex, it’s sometimes called the ugly tax.
Ok so you are an escortcel. Incels, who are not escortcels do not pay an ugly tax. Either because the exchange lacks the intimacy and sexual validation (especially if they are younger), religious reasons, or affordability. I dont think allot of incels are escortcels to be honest and they are in the minority. So its not really an ugly tax if most incels are not paying it. Most of people who use escorts are not incel but normies in a relationship behind their partner's back.
 

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Then you need better friends. None of my friends are ugly, that wasn't by choice, they just filter themselves out. Step your life game up.
We’re gamer nerds so…they’re not ‘ugly’ per se. Avg 4.5/10. They’ve really not been a hindrance to my life.
 

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Unless you look like a zombie, I think being ugly is not that big of a problem to a man, as long as he is in good shape, dresses well, has good income, knows the game, and knows what he's doing.
 

Giovanni SouthSide

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Now a days that sh1t really don’t matter.
An ugly guy with a more larger social circle will always have the opportunity to get laid more than an attractive guy who is a lone wolf with 0 social status on a lonely Saturday night.
Having an established social circle gives you more access to girls and girlfriends of those girls. Like a domino effect.
Even your homie’s cousin can get it if he introduces you to her.
That being said I rather much be the good looking guy I am and approach women.
Good looks aren’t only applied to women.
People in business tend to respect you more if you look good and pack some muscle.
 
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ManFromTartarus

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I’m for real, and no I’m not trying to solicit yours or anyone else’s sympathy, I don’t want it, nor do I need it.

You see, insensitive comments like yours, just proves there’s is no “Seduction community”, because real communities help and support their members, they don’t gang up on them and ask them to be banned just because they disagree with your world view.
I'm behind you UB, and your screen name is the best chuckle I've had all day.

At our age the best we can do is just make the best of what we've got. If you're feeling fugly by todays standards get a makeover, work out, get some better clothes, and yes getting your head wrapped some better game with women will at least make your chances better. Just don't think you can read a bunch of books on the subject and it will make up for your aesthetic shortcomings, you have to work on everything to have a well rounded game for women.

Just remember at your age it's not over and you have a lot more to do.
Good Luck
 
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