"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How do I win her back? Long distance relationship

FuturePlayer101

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Iceberg said:
There's nothing wrong with wanting a relationship.

It's just that you want a relationship with a girl who lives on the other side of the planet.

I mean, if she were a girl who you had ALREADY dated for years, and she moved away for work or school...okay, sure. Wait and see what happens.

But for a girl you met briefly....nah. Just seems desperate and foolish.

Well... it's true, I do see a potential relationship between me and her, but I need to get to know her more better face-to-face.

I get what you mean, but I think it's more of a case of trying to get what I can't have..
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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VladPatton

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No girl that is that heavy into computers, let alone online gaming, let alone on the other side of the planet is worth it. I've been there, done that, with various girls in various continents. This is a loose/loose scenarios. Stop thinking about any possibility of a future here. You're basically in love with your imagination of a false relationship painted in your brain. Delete all emails, bookmarks, Skype accounts, whatever you have, and go into the real world and meet a girl you can have a future with.

Good luck.
 

FuturePlayer101

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JoeMarron said:
This is yet even MORE reason for you to stop contacting her. When you told her you were in the hospital it made her realize that she still cares for you. When you go ghost it'll eventually make her realize she still cares for you and she'll probably reach out to you. This is a likely side effect of you following our advice but in actuality you should do this not to get her back but for your own sanity and self respect. Your efforts are useless at best and counterproductive at worse.

As far as effort is concerned I'm not going to judge another man's relationship that I don't even know but my experience, several members of this board and pretty much anyone who's good with women, and basic human psychology says otherwise. The man who makes less effort than the female will ALWAYS be more attractive than the dude who breaks his neck to win a chick over.
Hmmm, the only problem with going ghost is:
1. She'll think I don't give a sh*t about what I did
2. She has way too many new people to chat to (gaming buddies) so I don't know whether me going ghost would make a huge difference to her.

But regardless, from tonight, I'm going ghost, I wanna see how much it affects her & what she does (if anything)..

I agree with the human psychology thing that to have success with women, the guy should make less effort but it's not ALWAYS true.


JoeMarron said:
Lol and once again you prove our point. You're attracted to her because she's a challenge. She's not talking to you, she's ignoring you, the exact same damn things we're telling you to do to her. Men always come here asking for advice only to go and do their own thing. Oh well..some can only learn the hard way. Keep us updated and good luck..you'll need it.
I am taking on the advice on here as I am gonna go ghost starting tonight but I made a little effort first - know why, so she knows I care. Now I'm gonna back off & go cold.. Is that not a good idea? Or you think I've shot myself in the foot by making a bit of effort before I go cold?

Yep, I need all the luck, prayers and best wishes lol. Cheers man.
 

FuturePlayer101

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VladPatton said:
No girl that is that heavy into computers, let alone online gaming, let alone on the other side of the planet is worth it. I've been there, done that, with various girls in various continents. This is a loose/loose scenarios. Stop thinking about any possibility of a future here. You're basically in love with your imagination of a false relationship painted in your brain. Delete all emails, bookmarks, Skype accounts, whatever you have, and go into the real world and meet a girl you can have a future with.

Good luck.
She's into gaming and computers etc because she doesn't have many friends in her city.. I can't blame her for her hobbies..

I ain't in love with my "imagination of a false relationship" but I'm starting to finally see reality that it probably won't work out.

I have met girls here, dated and banged but I can't shake what I feel for her, it's different.

I'm going cold to heal up from now... and to see if she cares enough to contact me.. Whether I reply to her or not, I'll see if the situation comes up.
 

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FuturePlayer101 said:
Thanks for NOT reading my post then lol.

I KNOW I am the prize. She knows it too otherwise she would've told me to f*ck off as soon as she found out I was on her forum. But she knows my worth so she's still into me but pissed off.

Tbh, I prefer a relationship to gaming loads of girls, done both & I'm more of a relationship kinda person. You know, being with a girl you care for, who cares for you, rather than treating each other like a piece of meat.. That's just me mate..
You arent listening OP.

LDR in a different country? This is a failure. Move on.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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The earlier you go NC, the earlier you remove the factors that are giving her cold feet. You can contact her in a couple of months if you still feel like it at that point, but by then you will realize the futility of it all.
 
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