how do I stop judging other people

[five]

I find myself being judgmental of people but I don't want to be. I was taught growing up that things were a certain way and in my circle of friends/family they were.

During and after college I had some experiences that showed me a different
side of things. I had a hard time accepting it. I try and shake it off by telling myself It's none of my business, I shouldn't care. One thing in particular that bugs me is a womans sexual past.

Regardless if it is a girl I am in a relationship with or a buddy telling me about his sexual escapades that weekend. I feel myself passing judgment on her, even when it has nothing to do with me! Who am I to do that when most of the time I would do the same thing if the woman in question was interested in me? I know it is not healthy and wish I could truly not give a ****. I can say and act like I don't but I still feel it.

 

[KontrollerX]

I think what freed me of this same problem was accepting that the world and everyone in it including myself is a gigantic piece of garbage when you really break it down and think about us as a species and because I've accepted that I have no more guilt over judging anyone I just keep judgements to myself to remain socially acceptable and laugh about what scum I find most people to be and I also keep myself humble despite this by from time to time remembering that I am just as bad.

The trick I suppose to living with all of this is just enjoying and laughing about it all to yourself and that keeps the disgust for others and yourself at bay.

I get a real kick out of wondering what skeletons most people have in their closet when I hear someone talking all high and mighty and self righteous about any subject.

Anyhow here is an extra idea for you that may possibly help you get over this specific issue...

Imagine a girl you are with who by all accounts you think is innocent and pure a virginal vision of beauty for you to indulge in. She's passed a lie detector test proving her virgin status and by all intents and purposes seems to be the real deal type of wholesome untouched pure and perfect snowflake (or brown suga depending on what race of girl you prefer) of a girl you are looking for.

Alright so anyway in my example its indeed a fact that all this stuff is true about the girl and so you are the first guy to have her and you are railing her for a few months and all the while you are fvcking eachother's brains out and you think you've hit the lottery and won the big one getting a woman like this out of today's sex in the city female sh!t pile all that while you are railing her she's thinking about your c0ck size and how much better other guys might feel, other guys might be larger, other guys might fvck faster or slower or whatever she likes and then maybe she starts fantasizing about Peter North and soon you realize she's cvmming even harder while you are fvcking her and you think holy sh!t I am the man but nope she's just getting in some good old fashioned mental masturbation using you as a human d!ldo and hence merely a taste of things to come and cvm some more. Eventually she decides she's had enough of the starter course and wants to try the main meal, maybe a guy with a donger the size of Lexington Steele's or Peter North's, maybe a guy with one the size of a horse, maybe an actual horse who knows with women these days?

Even if you get a girl that is physically pure you can never be sure or know what she's thinking as time goes on, you can never be sure of her mental purity and knowing yourself so well and knowing how imperfect you and others are you can only come to conclude that your virginal goddess will soon abandon ship for new and BIGGER horizons.

So why care about a girl's sexual history when even if she's fresh off the assembly line and you are the first guy that tags it she's still fixing to trade you in for a larger model eventually and you were simply a primer to get her prepared for some real pleasure.

And you know what flipping the script for a moment think about if such a girl stays with you for your whole life and lets only you bone her. How will you feel if a machine were invented that let you peek into her mind and see all the thoughts she really had when you were boning her all those times during the course of your life. What would you think if the majority of the time you found out she was fantasizing about someone else? What would you think if she was fantasizing about getting it on with your dad or a best friend or your brother if you have one???

Would you feel she was pure then after learning this knowledge?

Maybe you would.

A lot of guys are fine with their woman fantasizing about someone else so long as she has sex with only them.

The thing is though if you have to fantasize about someone else to enjoy having sex with your partner is that even love? Should you even stay with your partner if you have to do that?? I would think no to both counts. The AFC's out there of course would think otherwise.

Anyway though the point I am trying to get at is I'm trying to find out what is it about a woman having a sexual past that bothers you other than the physical aspect of it I mean? My guess is what bothers you is that it makes her impure, it makes her a slvt and you can't imagine loving or being with such a woman that worshipped another man's c0ck in such a way but I can't help but pose to you the question that you can never fully know the answer to and that is...isn't it just as fundamentally bad if a virginal woman that only has sex with you may be worshipping your c0ck physically but wants someone elses mentally and emotionally via fantasy and she's wanted that other c0ck, she's worshipped that other c0ck mentally all that time you've been together and the only thing that you've ever had from her is her body but not her heart and mind and love?

Most guys can deal with the mental going to something else as long as the physical is with them but since I've guessed your problem with this whole arrangement is the viewed impurity of a woman for being with another man I have posed the idea to you that thoughts make us impure as well and we all men and women alike have impure thoughts quite regularly.

Overrall I guess I brought this all up to you to let you know that even if you get the virginal queen ideal that you can still never guarantee her absolute perfection because you literally cannot see into her mind and see where her desire truly lies no matter how well she gives you the compliments and the bedroom eyes.

I want you to see that there is no truly verifiable purity in this world when it comes to human beings and I want you to see it as a means of comfort for your mind if possible.

If you can see that a virgin can be just as impure as a well used slvt maybe the idea of a woman with a sexual past won't bother you so much anymore.

Maybe if you come to realize that in a way a woman being a slvt is a much more honest way for a human being to be, your mind will become more forgiving of a woman with a sexual past and you may even come to prefer them to virgins or at least the virgin idea since such a creature's existance is pretty much non existant in todays hookup culture.

 

[reset]

I don't think those are the images he wanted.

 

[five]

I think what freed me of this same problem was accepting that the world and everyone in it including myself is a gigantic piece of garbage when you really break it down and think about us as a species and because I've accepted that I have no more guilt over judging anyone I just keep judgements to myself to remain socially acceptable and laugh about what scum I find most people to be and I also keep myself humble despite this by from time to time remembering that I am just as bad.

The trick I suppose to living with all of this is just enjoying and laughing about it all to yourself and that keeps the disgust for others and yourself at bay.

I get a real kick out of wondering what skeletons most people have in their closet when I hear someone talking all high and mighty and self righteous about any subject.

Anyhow here is an extra idea for you that may possibly help you get over this specific issue...

Imagine a girl you are with who by all accounts you think is innocent and pure a virginal vision of beauty for you to indulge in. She's passed a lie detector test proving her virgin status and by all intents and purposes seems to be the real deal type of wholesome untouched pure and perfect snowflake (or brown suga depending on what race of girl you prefer) of a girl you are looking for.

Alright so anyway in my example its indeed a fact that all this stuff is true about the girl and so you are the first guy to have her and you are railing her for a few months and all the while you are fvcking eachother's brains out and you think you've hit the lottery and won the big one getting a woman like this out of today's sex in the city female sh!t pile all that while you are railing her she's thinking about your c0ck size and how much better other guys might feel, other guys might be larger, other guys might fvck faster or slower or whatever she likes and then maybe she starts fantasizing about Peter North and soon you realize she's cvmming even harder while you are fvcking her and you think holy sh!t I am the man but nope she's just getting in some good old fashioned mental masturbation using you as a human d!ldo and hence merely a taste of things to come and cvm some more. Eventually she decides she's had enough of the starter course and wants to try the main meal, maybe a guy with a donger the size of Lexington Steele's or Peter North's, maybe a guy with one the size of a horse, maybe an actual horse who knows with women these days?

Even if you get a girl that is physically pure you can never be sure or know what she's thinking as time goes on, you can never be sure of her mental purity and knowing yourself so well and knowing how imperfect you and others are you can only come to conclude that your virginal goddess will soon abandon ship for new and BIGGER horizons.

So why care about a girl's sexual history when even if she's fresh off the assembly line and you are the first guy that tags it she's still fixing to trade you in for a larger model eventually and you were simply a primer to get her prepared for some real pleasure.

And you know what flipping the script for a moment think about if such a girl stays with you for your whole life and lets only you bone her. How will you feel if a machine were invented that let you peek into her mind and see all the thoughts she really had when you were boning her all those times during the course of your life. What would you think if the majority of the time you found out she was fantasizing about someone else? What would you think if she was fantasizing about getting it on with your dad or a best friend or your brother if you have one???

Would you feel she was pure then after learning this knowledge?

Maybe you would.

A lot of guys are fine with their woman fantasizing about someone else so long as she has sex with only them.

The thing is though if you have to fantasize about someone else to enjoy having sex with your partner is that even love? Should you even stay with your partner if you have to do that?? I would think no to both counts. The AFC's out there of course would think otherwise.

Anyway though the point I am trying to get at is I'm trying to find out what is it about a woman having a sexual past that bothers you other than the physical aspect of it I mean? My guess is what bothers you is that it makes her impure, it makes her a slvt and you can't imagine loving or being with such a woman that worshipped another man's c0ck in such a way but I can't help but pose to you the question that you can never fully know the answer to and that is...isn't it just as fundamentally bad if a virginal woman that only has sex with you may be worshipping your c0ck physically but wants someone elses mentally and emotionally via fantasy and she's wanted that other c0ck, she's worshipped that other c0ck mentally all that time you've been together and the only thing that you've ever had from her is her body but not her heart and mind and love?

Most guys can deal with the mental going to something else as long as the physical is with them but since I've guessed your problem with this whole arrangement is the viewed impurity of a woman for being with another man I have posed the idea to you that thoughts make us impure as well and we all men and women alike have impure thoughts quite regularly.

Overrall I guess I brought this all up to you to let you know that even if you get the virginal queen ideal that you can still never guarantee her absolute perfection because you literally cannot see into her mind and see where her desire truly lies no matter how well she gives you the compliments and the bedroom eyes.

I want you to see that there is no truly verifiable purity in this world when it comes to human beings and I want you to see it as a means of comfort for your mind if possible.

If you can see that a virgin can be just as impure as a well used slvt maybe the idea of a woman with a sexual past won't bother you so much anymore.

Maybe if you come to realize that in a way a woman being a slvt is a much more honest way for a human being to be, your mind will become more forgiving of a woman with a sexual past and you may even come to prefer them to virgins or at least the virgin idea since such a creature's existance is pretty much non existant in todays hookup culture.

Interesting point, I actually had not thought of it from the mental stand point before. And, yes, if I knew she was constantly thinking about having sex with someone else, it would hurt me emotionally. Maybe, what I was brought up to believe in and look for does not actually exist. I have not lived up to those standards, why should anyone else have to? Is it realistic to worry about it when it is possible the only reason I believe I want/need it is because it was ingrained into my brain at an early age.

 

[KontrollerX]

I don't think those are the images he wanted.

Perhaps not reset old friend but I think judging by his reply he got what he needed. :yes:

"Is it realistic to worry about it when it is possible the only reason I believe I want/need it is because it was ingrained into my brain at an early age."

Most of us were programmed as young boys to put an extremely high value on a woman's virginity as that somehow in some mystical way makes her pure for us.

In reality that sort of teaching is religious motivated horse sh!t and I'm not even attaching this teaching to any particular religion what I guess I'm trying to say is adults whether it be the media or a specific person teaching young boys that a girl's virginity is special for some reason ala its the holy grail and you should always try to get a virgin if you can because thats better and makes the connection stronger its just...its just...well its either spiritual type of nonsense or an extremely opinionated unverifiable statement that melts into a nonsensical circular argument.

Its like the virginity is special simply because the adult or adults that teach this teaching are willing it to be so and in my mind that is a religious faith based way of thinking and not at all logical.

For example...

Young boy: Well gee golly gosh dad why should I go after a virgin girl?
Father: Well ya see son virgin girls are pure.
Young boy: Why are the pure?
Father: Because they've been untouched by a man.
Young boy: Well why is that important?
Father: Well because it just is.

Circular argument!

Now sure a valid argument to make would be go after a virgin girl because in theory she won't have any STD's but see that doesn't guarantee against STD's either as maybe she could somehow get herpes through letting a guy or girl give her oral sex or maybe she needed a blood transfusion a while back and oh sh!t its tainted with the AIDS virus and now she's got AIDS.

A million different possibilities there well ok maybe not a million but a few and I'm rambling here I know but I think I'm making a decent point with all this which is a girl's virginity isn't really all that important but we think it so because we were programmed with other people's agenda from a young age and its been so insidiously fed to us its become a deeply ingrained emotional feeling in many of us such as yourself for example to the point we think the feeling is genuinely our own when its not its just a result of all the brainwashing we've been through.

The process of socialization does a lot of good like help to balance and create a civilization but there are also negative consequences that can come of it such as this as well the much maligned condition of being an AFC.

 

[five]

Perhaps not reset old friend but I think judging by his reply he got what he needed. :yes:

"Is it realistic to worry about it when it is possible the only reason I believe I want/need it is because it was ingrained into my brain at an early age."

Most of us were programmed as young boys to put an extremely high value on a woman's virginity as that somehow in some mystical way makes her pure for us.

In reality that sort of teaching is religious motivated horse sh!t and I'm not even attaching this teaching to any particular religion what I guess I'm trying to say is adults whether it be the media or a specific person teaching young boys that a girl's virginity is special for some reason ala its the holy grail and you should always try to get a virgin if you can because thats better and makes the connection stronger its just...its just...well its either spiritual type of nonsense or an extremely opinionated unverifiable statement that melts into a nonsensical circular argument.

Its like the virginity is special simply because the adult or adults that teach this teaching are willing it to be so and in my mind that is a religious faith based way of thinking and not at all logical.

For example...

Young boy: Well gee golly gosh dad why should I go after a virgin girl?
Father: Well ya see son virgin girls are pure.
Young boy: Why are the pure?
Father: Because they've been untouched by a man.
Young boy: Well why is that important?
Father: Well because it just is.

Circular argument!

Now sure a valid argument to make would be go after a virgin girl because in theory she won't have any STD's but see that doesn't guarantee against STD's either as maybe she could somehow get herpes through letting a guy or girl give her oral sex or maybe she needed a blood transfusion a while back and oh sh!t its tainted with the AIDS virus and now she's got AIDS.

A million different possibilities there well ok maybe not a million but a few and I'm rambling here I know but I think I'm making a decent point with all this which is a girl's virginity isn't really all that important but we think it so because we were programmed with other people's agenda from a young age and its been so insidiously fed to us its become a deeply ingrained emotional feeling in many of us such as yourself for example to the point we think the feeling is genuinely our own when its not its just a result of all the brainwashing we've been through.

The process of socialization does a lot of good like help to balance and create a civilization but there are also negative consequences that can come of it such as this as well the much maligned condition of being an AFC.

Ok so say I realize why/how the beliefs are there but how do i let go, re-program it? I try, but, I can feel it in my core, nagging at me. How do I know what to re-program it with? If I am to 'be myself' what do I base it off of if I need to start from scratch?

 

[STR8UP]

Wondering about a woman's sexual past is like contemplating what lies beyond what lies beyond in outer space; it will drive you nuts and it doesn't make a goddamned bit of difference anyway.

Bottom line- you'll never know the truth or at least you won't know IF it IS the truth so get it out of your head.

 

[KontrollerX]

Honestly I think the programming for some people is so pervasive that the only solution some can hope for is to find a way to simply manage brainwashing created problems like this rather than outright getting rid of them because its impossible for certain people due to their brainwashing belief's deeply ingrained pervasive nature.

Anyway I mean managed kind of like how a diabetic takes an insulin shot every now and again. The shot doesn't cure the diabetes but it keeps it at bay.

I've laid out in my last two posts how I've personally overcome problems from my own societal brainwashing in hopes that my way might click with you and you could then look at the world and people similarly to how I do as well yourself and find a measure of peace in that but if you can't find any peace in my way you probably should just keep thinking of your own personal mental solution to this.

Perhaps you can come to some logical point with your own thoughts that connect perfectly to your feelings and make sense freeing you from this particular problem.

Do that and read my last two posts over and over again if you need to and maybe you'll find your way to managing this if not defeating it entirely.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

If all the arguments are circular, and there really is NO good reason to value a girls virginity, shouldn't the other side of the equation be also true?

e.g.: If there is NO reason that a virgin girl is good, then there should also be NO reason that a non-virgin girl is bad.

So I'm curious, Kontroller X, what criteria do you use to come to the conclusion that "all people are garbage" since you've demonstrated above that virgin girl = non-virgin girl = neutral?

Unless of course you mean "garbage = neutral" in which case I question your metaphor usage. While you have full choice over what metaphors you use, you might not get your point across very well, if you use other than mainstream metaphors.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

My apologies, I forgot to give advice to the OP. Try this game on for size:

Assume that the base of every action is a GOOD INTENTION. And make it a game to interact with other people, just enough, to detect their GOOD INTENTIONS. If you play this game long enough, you'll change your instictive reaction from "every body is bad" to "I wonder what thier good points are."

Because after all, you usually find what you look for.

 

[thedeparted]

This is FVCKED UP. Your concern about her sexual past is VALID and GENETICALLY AND BIOLOGICALLY BASED. Why are you trying to undo your programming as a man to fit into a sex and the city world?

Like most men I care about how many other men a woman has put into her pvssy. And if I get the idea that the number is too high I dump that used up piece of ***-sucking garbage and find something younger and fresher.

The FACT is that you should not be investing in old women that have taken it every which way for a decade or two and you should not feel bad. The FACT is that you should not take a young girl seriously who has spent her youth fvcking her brains out. The FACT is that a girl's sexual past does matter.

I'm sure I'll get a lot of critics for this thread, but those are from desperate AFC types that will bone any piece of garbage that will spread her legs. Ignore that, and listen to your inner critic. If you think your woman is a ho, she probably is. Throw her back onto the garbage heap of alpha-biatch women-gone-wild wanna be's and find yourself a quality woman.

 

[KontrollerX]

"If there is NO reason that a virgin girl is good, then there should also be NO reason that a non-virgin girl is bad."

Correct for once Tacky Taco. This was what I was trying to convey though I am ashamed it took me so many more words than this to get the thought out.

"So I'm curious, Kontroller X, what criteria do you use to come to the conclusion that "all people are garbage" since you've demonstrated above that virgin girl = non-virgin girl = neutral?"

Most posters here including the OP I think subscribe to the commonly held societal morality system. I also was programmed from birth and fully indoctrinated with this system obviously so I know it well and these were the criteria whereby I decided to conclude all people are garbage when of course they are held up to the common morality standard society promotes but never holds itself fully accountable to due to the fallible nature of we humans.

By this commonly accepted societal morality standard all humans indeed are garbage in my opinion and I'm probably being nice to use that word for us.

So going from there we then come to nihilism where there is no objective morality and hence the neutrality view I put forth as part of my post to help ease the OP's mind.

Realizing how subjective and constantly failing and flawed society's morals can be helps re-inforce nihilistic and misanthropic views in me Tacky Taco.

The main point of the posts though was to help the OP find a way to see that if he really thought about things deeply or thought about things he did not consider before that what he thought to be his ideal type of woman may not be all that ideal after all as once you eliminate one problem for him ie previous sexual history factor you are still left with another problem when she's the virgin that he wants if you consider the new problem ie her thoughts very possibly not lusting after and desiring him only even if he is the only guy who ever gets to hit it.

What I was kind of hoping for with this advice if it worked was to create a sensory overload in the original poster where he'd have to see that even if he got his ideal scenario there could still be a very large heartbreaking negative for him to consider and as a result of this sensory overload perhaps it would then help him not to care whether his girl was a virgin or not as he would then be open to the thoughts that hey there's a potential negative for just about anything if you look for it so its pointless to bother with this negative past sexual history issue when the issue of her constantly fantasizing about other guys while we're getting it on would be just as negative if not even more of a dealbreaker than being with a girl thats actually into me and desires me while we're having sex and not other people.

Putting forth the potential negatives of his ideal virgin girl scenario is an excellent way I think of attacking and breaking down in his mind the idol that is the virgin girl.

"This is FVCKED UP. Your concern about her sexual past is VALID and GENETICALLY AND BIOLOGICALLY BASED. Why are you trying to undo your programming as a man to fit into a sex and the city world?"

Man is a thing that is to be overcome.

We should all be striving for the goal of ubermensch or overman.

Before you write it off you should know this forum regularly has advocated this very thing with the common advice that is given here over all of the years even in the Pook era of "Be your own man" "Create your own reality" "Become an alpha male" "Do what you want and don't worry what anyone else thinks".

In many of the posters who come to this forums natural state they are born AFC's.

Becoming a DJ alpha male is an ubermensch type of goal as you were never intended by nature to be anything but a snivelling AFC.

Its the same for this biological problem this poster has or perhaps its indoctrination from childhood as he and I have suspected earlier in the thread but in either case through heading towards the goal of becoming an overman and creating his own world and way of looking at his world he can either outright get rid of or at the very least manage something he has deemed to be a problem for him with this thread and it is not being able to not judge a woman based on her sexual past and he wasn't talking about a specific sexual type of past such as being an outright pornwh0re all he conveyed with his posts was that what bothered him about women was their having any sexual history at all previous to him and in my mind that is a valid goal for him to want to overcome or manage this issue that bothers him better.

 

[ketostix]

This is FVCKED UP. Your concern about her sexual past is VALID and GENETICALLY AND BIOLOGICALLY BASED. Why are you trying to undo your programming as a man to fit into a sex and the city world?

Like most men I care about how many other men a woman has put into her pvssy. And if I get the idea that the number is too high I dump that used up piece of ***-sucking garbage and find something younger and fresher.

The FACT is that you should not be investing in old women that have taken it every which way for a decade or two and you should not feel bad. The FACT is that you should not take a young girl seriously who has spent her youth fvcking her brains out. The FACT is that a girl's sexual past does matter.

I'm sure I'll get a lot of critics for this thread, but those are from desperate AFC types that will bone any piece of garbage that will spread her legs. Ignore that, and listen to your inner critic. If you think your woman is a ho, she probably is. Throw her back onto the garbage heap of alpha-biatch women-gone-wild wanna be's and find yourself a quality woman.

I agree with you. Just about every girl any more has a sexual past but to varying degrees. The fact is it does matter to what degree. If you replace the word "judgemental" with the word "standards" then it doesn't seem so bad and it would be more accurate anyway.

 

[dirtysouth]

If you have standards, and that's why your judgmental, then look at yourself first and ask if you could meet your own standards. If you can't, then discard them. She's human too.

If you are just curious about what she's done in the past, then let me try to make this as clear as possible:

You're not planting a flag anywhere. Your ego can destroy you.

 

[jophil28]

You are entitled to evaluate a womans sexual freedoms based on her history. IF that means being " judgemental " then so be it.
I gather that you had a traditional or conservative upbringing in which "right and wrong" were clearly defined. Well, why do you want to discard that?
THose old fashioned values were practised and taught for very good reasons. However they are no longer fashionable. We drifted into post-moderism instead with all its wishy washy confusion.

Hold fast to that which is fine.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Most posters here including the OP I think subscribe to the commonly held societal morality system. I also was programmed from birth and fully indoctrinated with this system obviously so I know it well and these were the criteria whereby I decided to conclude all people are garbage when of course they are held up to the common morality standard society promotes but never holds itself fully accountable to due to the fallible nature of we humans.

By this commonly accepted societal morality standard all humans indeed are garbage in my opinion and I'm probably being nice to use that word for us.

So going from there we then come to nihilism where there is no objective morality and hence the neutrality view I put forth as part of my post to help ease the OP's mind.

Realizing how subjective and constantly failing and flawed society's morals can be helps re-inforce nihilistic and misanthropic views in me Tacky Taco.

So all humans are garbage based on a standard you no longer hold, because you've adopted the "society=no objective morals" standard?

Then you say society's morals are "failing and flawed". Failed according to what standard? Flawed from comparison to what standard?

Which is it?

Is society morally netural with no standards?

Or are there standards by which you make your so called misanthropic judgements?

 

[STR8UP]

This is FVCKED UP. Your concern about her sexual past is VALID and GENETICALLY AND BIOLOGICALLY BASED. Why are you trying to undo your programming as a man to fit into a sex and the city world?

I have read a sh!tload of material on the subject, and I don't remember seeing where a mans desire for a "pure" woman is based on biology.

Youth and beauty- yes. Viginity- no.

Don't confuse religious "ideals" for biological programming.

Biology I accept and live with. Religious and societal BS.....have fun following that....

Edit- Can someone explain to me what biological advantage a man has by judging a woman based upon some arbitrary and often incorrect number of sexual partners a woman has had?

If she sucked 100 D1cks and took it up the ass a dozen times but hasn't been vaginally penetrated is she still "pure"?

When you start to look at it in these terms your "purity" argument is exposed for what it is, which is societal and religious mind control.

 

[Duffdog]

Kontroller,

I think that there is another side to your argument. From the worrisome male point of view, one worries that their partner always wants something else, someone bigger, better, faster etc... Thus, the man is worried that he cannot possibly satisfy her because she will inevitably seek out something better. I say this because I used to worry about some of those exact things until I met a girl who had done everything with everyone. There was nothing that you could say to her or do that she wouldn't respond with "OK!"---anything, trust me. Because of this, there was nothing that surprised her and nothing was unacceptable in a sexual nature. In short, she had to like me for something other than my pen15 because she could have any amount of penii she wanted. She could have any crazy porn star also-- so why stay with me? Maybe, just maybe, the girl wants something other than just the largest possible pen15 in the world. It is a calming feeling to know that even though someone could have anything and has done everything, she still wants you.

Also, in my experience, I have met many guys who fantasize about all these crazy sexual things because they haven't done them. The fact that this girl did anything and everything I wanted with no reservations showed me what I did and did not like. I was very surprised at the number of things that I had imagined were wonderful until I tried them. Most likely, I would probably still be wondering what some of the taboo stuff was like if I did not go out with the craziest wh0re you have ever met. In addition, she taught me how to lay the pipe well, better than I would have ever done by experimenting myself-- a skill which has paid off many times over in all my relationships.

Learning about someones sexual past isn't even a problem for me anymore, I am aware that most hot girls get nailed all the time, much more than they try to let on. But, I am ok with this now that I have already been through the feelings of inadequacy and come to grips with it. In short, I really don't care anymore because it doesn't matter to me. I have already done all my experimenting and soul searching before I meet some new chic, thus the barriers which would normally exist are gone.

It has been several years since I even had a thought about inadequacy, and to think that these thoughts have been banished from my mind because of some crazy oversexed girl, makes me think that experienced girls aren't all bad. After all, who is to say that an inexperienced chic isn't thinking that she is inadequate for you and wondering if you want something else while your nailing her?

Have you ever had a girl ask after sex: "Am I going to be enough for you?" when you knew the answer was yes. You wanted her for some reason, otherwize you wouldn't have just had sex with her.

 

[ketostix]

I personally think that it is in males' nature to be attracted to a woman who's a virgin. I think it's also in males' nature to look down on slutty women, heck it's in females' nature too. I don't believe it is due to just societal/religious programming, which ignores where societal/religious ideas come from anyway-human nature. I think it is biological because a woman who is promiscuous gets pregnant and the group doesn't know who the father is and it's a burden on the group. If anything it's modern society that is indocterinating people to accept promiscuous women against their natural instincts, not the other way around.

Sure men like promiscuous women for fun and sex, but they don't really value them or hold them high esteem generally. They are all fun and dandy until she gives you an std, gets pregnant by some other guy and claims it's yours, brings other jealous men around to target you, etc. Let's be honest here, most men really want a young, attractive virgin who picks him over every other guy and he turns her out and moves on to the next one, and she moves on with no hard feelings because he's so wonderful.

 

[thedeparted]

The Biological Case For a Virgin

A few observations:

1. A virgin cannot possibly be carrying another man's child. Therefore a man who marries a virgin does not risk investing in another man's gene's.

2. A virgin cannot easily be carrying STD's. Therefore a man who marries a virgin takes less risk with his health and that of his children.

3. Due to the above it is the case in many if not most cultures throughout human history that virgins were preferred over other women for mating and marriage.

4. Due to case 3 it is clear that the preference for virgin's is NOT a cultural norm. For what purely cutlural norm arises in nearly all cultures across time?

5. Only in recent Western society has the notion of sexually promiscuous females been embraced. This has been a key part of the feminist agenda and the "empowerment" of women. Men have always divided women into madonna and *****. Feminists want men to accept ***** as madonna.

6. Much of capitalism rests on selling products. And what sells better than sex? So sexual promiscuity has been a driving feature of late Western capitalism apparent in advertising. This is driven by profit not by biology.

In conclusion, feminism and capitalism are two forces driving acceptance of female sexual promiscuity in late Western capitalist culture. This cultural preference contradicts thousands of years of cross-cultural preference for virgins based on genetic greed and fear of disease.

CONCLUSION: Don't let Cosmo editors talk you into accepting a woman who's had 48 men in the past four and a half years. Hold out for quality women who are less likely to be carrying STD's -- both those we've identified and those we have yet to identify -- and more likely to be carrying your child if you end up getting married and having kids.