"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ok well about a week ago I had a first date things went well, called and as soon as I got on the phone she wanted to know when we I was free to go out, bc she knows we both are going to be busy for the next few weeks.

Anyways to make a long story short, spoke with her and her deadline got pushed up even further. I asked her if we were still on for Sunday, she said she she still is but we wouldn't be able to go out for very long a few hours but she feels bad becuase she knows we live about 20 minutes apart. She said something of the nature that she is interested in going out but just busy I more or less said that I don't mind making the trip becuase I will probably meet up with my boys who live in the area, later on for the Sunday night game. I did make it very clear however that I am in no rush what so ever, and if she needs to do her work, I can keep myself busy, but she then sort of said no she would really like to go out.

Now I really don't know if I went about things the right way, I really wanted to use this date to get the first kiss out of the way and probably much more in a enviorment where physical contact can be natural, you know something outdoorish which we innitially planning on doing. Now it seems I am kinda getting backed into a dinner or a lounge thing. Do I cancel the date, do the dinner or lounge and just get the first kiss over with and then wait until we are both free in about two weeks to take it further.....

I feel like a newbie all over again becuase this is the first chick in a long time that I actually seem to like..... any advice would be appreciated.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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hmm am I just being overly anal hence no responses?
 

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Why does it have to be one date at a time? I mean, first kiss, then what? Can you f close the first time?


I'm pretty sure you can call her up, tell her you're coming over, pick her up on your car, sit her in, do C&F thing about no touching, put her hand over the shifter and kino her as you drive around. Playing a game or something. Move in for a kiss. Go for one over the top thing, you're allowed one per date. Like for f close, maybe she wants that.
 

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Thats exactly what I meant by my innitial post, I probably was not very clear since I wrote it last night in a zombiesque state. More or less should I hold off and cancel until i know I can take it alot further, since I will be pressed for time, or should I just try to take it as far as I can with what I have. If it wasn't for her parents visiting until mid-september (staying at her place), I would probably be able to say I could take it all, but I can wait another week or so for that. Thats the only thing I feel holding me back, bc I think with the lack of time driving back to my place for such a short time would be either creepy or make it seem I am looking for nothing but sex...
 

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Just do bridges. Hand holding, then hugging, then kissing, ect make it natural.

If you want a kiss on that date then get it, just use the simple kiss test routine to see if she's up for it.

Also reframe that limiting belief you have if its holding you back.

Dont cancel though, just because its a short date u can still build attraction for the next time around. Dont worry about taking it to a physical level just try and make her smile.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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since you are the prize after all, right? Start acting like the prize rather then being so concerned about working around her busy schedule.
 

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You guys are right, I should not go into a date with a preconeived notion it might do more harm than good. I am just going to see how far I can get regardless of the time even if its outside my comfort zone.
 

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Invest in an English tutor. That was hard as hell to read.

Just go to dinner with her and take her for a walk afterwords, maybe. Or go to a bar. It's easy to kino at bars.
 

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I don't know.


It's possible that she wants to put up a face for her parents, a nice face. Use you for that, move slow with you. You'll be setting the pace, after her parents gone, that pace will remain. Possibly making you uninteresting.


Right now it sounds like she's very interested in her parents, and is keeping you away from that life. Yet she don't want to loose you, almost telling you to wait up.


If that's the case, these little dates would be to please you and keep you in. IL down with each one.



IMO anyway. Of the things I'm not really sure about, this is one of them.
 
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