"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How do i kiss her tomorrow?

Bullszeye

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Long story short,i became friends with a girl and eventually fell for her.Tomorrow she's gonna be at the same concert as i am and i'm thinking of making some moves.And by moves i mean attempting to kiss her.That is going to be pretty hard though.I'm way too deep int othe friendzone.I touch her ass and boobs regularly and i sometimes give her ***** a little rub(this is all over clothes though) and she still thinks i'm joking lol.Please give me some suggestions on what to do,in which way to dance or which areas to touch/kiss.I'll literally do anything you tell me.Thanks in advance...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I exaggerated a little about the touching.Usually it's wherever i touch(when we're alone) she just acts as if i'm not touching her at all.I tried sliding my hand down her thighs countless times she just acts as if i'm not doing anything.And it's not like i actually rub her vag,i just put my hand over it,and she doesn't move my hand until i actually start rubbing it.One time she did let me touch it over her panties,when i slid my hand down her pants,but again i did that while saying "did any boyfriend of yours do this" or something like that,she always sees it as me teasing her so...

Anyways,when we're dancing i usually just hug her around the waist or right under the boobs and grind.Sometimes I'm really in the mood for romantic **** and i hold my hands over hers while slow grinding behind her.The first one is better for her personality,but it's not intense enough as I've picked her up in more spontaneous ways before.Like for example literally grabbing her calves and lifting her up on my neck extremely fast,and then jumping around like a bull while she's on my neck(lol).I'll try the first one,but do u have any other suggestions?I highly doubt the first one is enough...Thanks

EDIT:And yes,she is VERY laidback and VERY outgoing.Especially with me.
 

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When dancing, just lean in and kiss her. Don't think, just do it. Thinking will make you hesitate.
 

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dude, you are in no way shape or form in the friendzone from the sounds of it

now, if your plan to kiss her goes awry or if you ask her out and she says no then you're in the friendzone with a huge tease

the real/regular friendzone is nothing like this and in fact is much worse
 

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Meh it went bad,i didn't try anything.I didn't really have the chance anyways,only was with her for a few minutes.My next chance is on friday.

Yes,I am in the friendzone.She's just that kind of girl who is very laid back around her male friends.I did bring up a future in which we'd date a few times.She usually just changes the subject,but one time she did talk with me about it and she's convinced that i'd dump her after one week.It's my fault that she sees me as a friend/brother,because from the beginning I've strongly implied that i want nothing more with her.However,my opinion changed over time but even today i still talk like that.Like a few weeks ago when her boyfriend made her mad she wanted to cheat on him because he cheated on her,and the next day while me,her,and a mutual male friend were talking she said "I was so irritated that I'd even kiss Bullszeye"...I then said "Yeah,right..." and she responded with "Just kidding of course.You're my brother."

Anyways what is the real/regular friendzone like?I always thought all guys out there had it like me...I did think before that she might secretly like me as The Ruler suggested,but she talks about other guys so much that there's no way she'd like me...

And just leaning in to kiss her while dancing is not enough.I need something really unique and surprising that will make the kiss irresistible.There were way too many guys that have tried SO many things on her.I really need something VERY unique.Thanks.

EDIT:One thing i forgot to add was that I did bring up the subject of me falling in love with her and i even confessed to her once but she said she "knew" i was jokign because there is NO way that i'll ever fall in love with her.She's 100% convinced that i won't ever fall for her...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Bullszeye said:
Anyways what is the real/regular friendzone like?I always thought all guys out there had it like me...I did think before that she might secretly like me as The Ruler suggested,but she talks about other guys so much that there's no way she'd like me...
I'm pretty sure most people in the friendzone don't get to feel up their girl like that, for one thing.

your friendzone is unique but now it sounds like you're definitely in it
 
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