"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How do i kiss her tomorrow?

Bullszeye

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Long story short,i became friends with a girl and eventually fell for her.Tomorrow she's gonna be at the same concert as i am and i'm thinking of making some moves.And by moves i mean attempting to kiss her.That is going to be pretty hard though.I'm way too deep int othe friendzone.I touch her ass and boobs regularly and i sometimes give her ***** a little rub(this is all over clothes though) and she still thinks i'm joking lol.Please give me some suggestions on what to do,in which way to dance or which areas to touch/kiss.I'll literally do anything you tell me.Thanks in advance...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bullszeye

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I exaggerated a little about the touching.Usually it's wherever i touch(when we're alone) she just acts as if i'm not touching her at all.I tried sliding my hand down her thighs countless times she just acts as if i'm not doing anything.And it's not like i actually rub her vag,i just put my hand over it,and she doesn't move my hand until i actually start rubbing it.One time she did let me touch it over her panties,when i slid my hand down her pants,but again i did that while saying "did any boyfriend of yours do this" or something like that,she always sees it as me teasing her so...

Anyways,when we're dancing i usually just hug her around the waist or right under the boobs and grind.Sometimes I'm really in the mood for romantic **** and i hold my hands over hers while slow grinding behind her.The first one is better for her personality,but it's not intense enough as I've picked her up in more spontaneous ways before.Like for example literally grabbing her calves and lifting her up on my neck extremely fast,and then jumping around like a bull while she's on my neck(lol).I'll try the first one,but do u have any other suggestions?I highly doubt the first one is enough...Thanks

EDIT:And yes,she is VERY laidback and VERY outgoing.Especially with me.
 

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When dancing, just lean in and kiss her. Don't think, just do it. Thinking will make you hesitate.
 

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dude, you are in no way shape or form in the friendzone from the sounds of it

now, if your plan to kiss her goes awry or if you ask her out and she says no then you're in the friendzone with a huge tease

the real/regular friendzone is nothing like this and in fact is much worse
 

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Meh it went bad,i didn't try anything.I didn't really have the chance anyways,only was with her for a few minutes.My next chance is on friday.

Yes,I am in the friendzone.She's just that kind of girl who is very laid back around her male friends.I did bring up a future in which we'd date a few times.She usually just changes the subject,but one time she did talk with me about it and she's convinced that i'd dump her after one week.It's my fault that she sees me as a friend/brother,because from the beginning I've strongly implied that i want nothing more with her.However,my opinion changed over time but even today i still talk like that.Like a few weeks ago when her boyfriend made her mad she wanted to cheat on him because he cheated on her,and the next day while me,her,and a mutual male friend were talking she said "I was so irritated that I'd even kiss Bullszeye"...I then said "Yeah,right..." and she responded with "Just kidding of course.You're my brother."

Anyways what is the real/regular friendzone like?I always thought all guys out there had it like me...I did think before that she might secretly like me as The Ruler suggested,but she talks about other guys so much that there's no way she'd like me...

And just leaning in to kiss her while dancing is not enough.I need something really unique and surprising that will make the kiss irresistible.There were way too many guys that have tried SO many things on her.I really need something VERY unique.Thanks.

EDIT:One thing i forgot to add was that I did bring up the subject of me falling in love with her and i even confessed to her once but she said she "knew" i was jokign because there is NO way that i'll ever fall in love with her.She's 100% convinced that i won't ever fall for her...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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devilkingx2

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Bullszeye said:
Anyways what is the real/regular friendzone like?I always thought all guys out there had it like me...I did think before that she might secretly like me as The Ruler suggested,but she talks about other guys so much that there's no way she'd like me...
I'm pretty sure most people in the friendzone don't get to feel up their girl like that, for one thing.

your friendzone is unique but now it sounds like you're definitely in it
 
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