"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How do i get around to be fully confident C&F with women?

solo1

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Ill be frank, most women i talk with i barely use c&f. And truth is i have no clue what to talk about, so i just end up asking where she's from and why she's in this major etc. And if the girl is interested enough, she'll ask me back.

But normally aside from that i have no clue how to bring out my true fun innerself, along with c&f of course. I'd probably say that girls that are easy to talk with, i'd have less of a problem. But it appears most girls are just overall shy (or arent exactly sociable with guys), so if they are less talkative im more at a loss for words. They are interested at first, but the more i keep this up the sooner they'll lose interest. So this has become a serious issue for me.

so in short, Generally if im around friends or people i know, i am my true fun self. But around women i dont know so well, i have trouble bringing that about. Does anyone havve suggestions?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by solo1
Ill be frank, most women i talk with i barely use c&f. And truth is i have no clue what to talk about, so i just end up asking where she's from and why she's in this major etc. And if the girl is interested enough, she'll ask me back.

But normally aside from that i have no clue how to bring out my true fun innerself, along with c&f of course. I'd probably say that girls that are easy to talk with, i'd have less of a problem. But it appears most girls are just overall shy (or arent exactly sociable with guys), so if they are less talkative im more at a loss for words. They are interested at first, but the more i keep this up the sooner they'll lose interest. So this has become a serious issue for me.

so in short, Generally if im around friends or people i know, i am my true fun self. But around women i dont know so well, i have trouble bringing that about. Does anyone havve suggestions?
ya, instead of asking questions try to keep talkin in a linear fashion where you find out she likes bio and you start talkin about why shes likes bio and then you get to hear how she wants to be a madd scientist, and you say how madd scientists are crazy, so shes says but hahha im just kidding, and then you keep talkin about bio.:confused:
 

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C&F Requires starting the conversation with a very specific frame. You are the older brother and she (and her friends) are your little sister. Every time she says something, you MUST bust her balls about it.

"Oh you are from X town? We can't be friends."
"WHY WHY??"
"Because you must be a X-sports-team fan... things will never work out between us"
"NO NO, I like Y-local-sports-team"
"You're just saying that so i'll like you... you are such a bad liar..."
 

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Originally posted by locarius
C&F Requires starting the conversation with a very specific frame. You are the older brother and she (and her friends) are your little sister. Every time she says something, you MUST bust her balls about it.

"Oh you are from X town? We can't be friends."
"WHY WHY??"
"Because you must be a X-sports-team fan... things will never work out between us"
"NO NO, I like Y-local-sports-team"
"You're just saying that so i'll like you... you are such a bad liar..."
yea that makes sense, brings back memories...
I understand that c&f is a form of teasing, i've been able to do it in the past with girls that i LJBF. But somehow i guess i cant get into the same comfort zone with new girls to use it as readily and easily
 

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C+F requires two things, confidence, and testosterone. If you lack either, you'll fail.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by italostud
C+F requires two things, confidence, and testosterone. If you lack either, you'll fail.
does injecting help :D
 

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Originally posted by RaWBLooD
does injecting help :D
Yes, but doing things liiiikke...working out(squats, deads specifically), eating well, not cutting fats out of your diet(required for test. prod.), sleeping well, not drinking/smoking cigs/weed, eliminating stress....will all raise testosterone levels without resorting to anything resembling exogenous testosterone.
 
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