How do i get around to be fully confident C&F with women?

[solo1]

Ill be frank, most women i talk with i barely use c&f. And truth is i have no clue what to talk about, so i just end up asking where she's from and why she's in this major etc. And if the girl is interested enough, she'll ask me back.

But normally aside from that i have no clue how to bring out my true fun innerself, along with c&f of course. I'd probably say that girls that are easy to talk with, i'd have less of a problem. But it appears most girls are just overall shy (or arent exactly sociable with guys), so if they are less talkative im more at a loss for words. They are interested at first, but the more i keep this up the sooner they'll lose interest. So this has become a serious issue for me.

so in short, Generally if im around friends or people i know, i am my true fun self. But around women i dont know so well, i have trouble bringing that about. Does anyone havve suggestions?

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by solo1
Ill be frank, most women i talk with i barely use c&f. And truth is i have no clue what to talk about, so i just end up asking where she's from and why she's in this major etc. And if the girl is interested enough, she'll ask me back.

But normally aside from that i have no clue how to bring out my true fun innerself, along with c&f of course. I'd probably say that girls that are easy to talk with, i'd have less of a problem. But it appears most girls are just overall shy (or arent exactly sociable with guys), so if they are less talkative im more at a loss for words. They are interested at first, but the more i keep this up the sooner they'll lose interest. So this has become a serious issue for me.

so in short, Generally if im around friends or people i know, i am my true fun self. But around women i dont know so well, i have trouble bringing that about. Does anyone havve suggestions?

ya, instead of asking questions try to keep talkin in a linear fashion where you find out she likes bio and you start talkin about why shes likes bio and then you get to hear how she wants to be a madd scientist, and you say how madd scientists are crazy, so shes says but hahha im just kidding, and then you keep talkin about bio.

 

[locarius]

C&F Requires starting the conversation with a very specific frame. You are the older brother and she (and her friends) are your little sister. Every time she says something, you MUST bust her balls about it.

"Oh you are from X town? We can't be friends."
"WHY WHY??"
"Because you must be a X-sports-team fan... things will never work out between us"
"NO NO, I like Y-local-sports-team"
"You're just saying that so i'll like you... you are such a bad liar..."

 

[solo1]

Originally posted by locarius
C&F Requires starting the conversation with a very specific frame. You are the older brother and she (and her friends) are your little sister. Every time she says something, you MUST bust her balls about it.

"Oh you are from X town? We can't be friends."
"WHY WHY??"
"Because you must be a X-sports-team fan... things will never work out between us"
"NO NO, I like Y-local-sports-team"
"You're just saying that so i'll like you... you are such a bad liar..."

yea that makes sense, brings back memories...
I understand that c&f is a form of teasing, i've been able to do it in the past with girls that i LJBF. But somehow i guess i cant get into the same comfort zone with new girls to use it as readily and easily

 

[italostud]

C+F requires two things, confidence, and testosterone. If you lack either, you'll fail.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by italostud
C+F requires two things, confidence, and testosterone. If you lack either, you'll fail.

does injecting help

 

[italostud]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
does injecting help

Yes, but doing things liiiikke...working out(squats, deads specifically), eating well, not cutting fats out of your diet(required for test. prod.), sleeping well, not drinking/smoking cigs/weed, eliminating stress....will all raise testosterone levels without resorting to anything resembling exogenous testosterone.