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How do I do NC on a classmate?

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Ok, this classmate of mine LJBF'd me...so i want to go NC on her by not texting, chatting or talking to her anymore. But do I still smile or nod at her when we walk past each other? I honestly like her very much, but it looks like she's just using me to be her emotional tampon when she needs someone to cheer her up, while I do believe that she has shown little interest in me but not 0%, but me being AFC just made it worse, I also feel some awkwardness when we talk in person or when she's left alone with me and she's said thru text that she's sorry if she's making me feel like she's a snob sometimes because maybe she really feels awkward with me (liking her). I wanna move on, but I also hope at the back of my mind that she would contact me or ask me, what's up or why I'm not talking to her anymore, what should I do if ever that happens or what could I do to raise the chances of her missing me, we have a 1 hr class, 3x a week, I sit in front of her during class.
 

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The key is to play it cool. When you see her, be cordial, and nice. Talk to her, whatever. Then, you play the chick game. If she wants to hang out, say 'sure,' but never call her back, and flake on her, so you never really do. If she calls you, talk for a minute, and say you have to put your clothes in the dryer, and you'll call her right back, but never do. Also, dont answer two thirds of her calls. If she texts, dont answer most of them, but once in a while answer one, and tell her you've been too busy to respond, and you'll call her later, but dont.

If you can discipline yourself to do this, her attraction will either skyrocket for you, or she will give up. At the least, it will knock her off her high horse, and fvck with her head.

You have to act like she is not involved in your life, but you arent affected by her at all, so you are nice to her face, but she doesnt exist after that.
 

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horaholic said:
The key is to play it cool. When you see her, be cordial, and nice. Talk to her, whatever. Then, you play the chick game. If she wants to hang out, say 'sure,' but never call her back, and flake on her, so you never really do. If she calls you, talk for a minute, and say you have to put your clothes in the dryer, and you'll call her right back, but never do. Also, dont answer two thirds of her calls. If she texts, dont answer most of them, but once in a while answer one, and tell her you've been too busy to respond, and you'll call her later, but dont.

If you can discipline yourself to do this, her attraction will either skyrocket for you, or she will give up. At the least, it will knock her off her high horse, and fvck with her head.

You have to act like she is not involved in your life, but you arent affected by her at all, so you are nice to her face, but she doesnt exist after that.
man great advice..
 

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horaholic said:
The key is to play it cool. When you see her, be cordial, and nice. Talk to her, whatever. Then, you play the chick game. If she wants to hang out, say 'sure,' but never call her back, and flake on her, so you never really do. If she calls you, talk for a minute, and say you have to put your clothes in the dryer, and you'll call her right back, but never do. Also, dont answer two thirds of her calls. If she texts, dont answer most of them, but once in a while answer one, and tell her you've been too busy to respond, and you'll call her later, but dont.

If you can discipline yourself to do this, her attraction will either skyrocket for you, or she will give up. At the least, it will knock her off her high horse, and fvck with her head.

You have to act like she is not involved in your life, but you arent affected by her at all, so you are nice to her face, but she doesnt exist after that.
thanks for the great advice!

btw, what if one of her friends ask why I'm not friendly with her anymore...what should I say?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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doctorj said:
thanks for the great advice!

btw, what if one of her friends ask why I'm not friendly with her anymore...what should I say?
I would either deny it, and play dumb, or admit that you're on to her games, and wont fall for it. I say denial would be the best option. I get this all the time, when I realize a chick is trying to play me. I say "what are you talking about? How am I being a dyck? Im treating you like anyone else." or "What, am I not giving you enough attention? Do you think that you are special, that I should treat you better than I treat everyone else? You arent BETTER than any of the rest of my friends, and I treat you the same as them." This tends to knock em down a little too. You're calling them out on being an AW. They have no argument except, "well, you USED to call me more, and blah,blah,blah," and you say "well, I USED to think I had a shot with you, but you're obviously not interested, so I'm moving on. Is there something wrong with that? If you think I'm gonna be your puppy dog, you're wrong, sweetheart. You're hot and all, but so am I." This approach can sometimes turn her around and make her go for you. I've had it happen. It demonstrates confidence, by admitting you WERE going for her, and are OK with her not liking you, and that you have value. Turn ons.
 

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I would either deny it, and play dumb, or admit that you're on to her games, and wont fall for it. I say denial would be the best option. I get this all the time, when I realize a chick is trying to play me. I say "what are you talking about? How am I being a dyck? Im treating you like anyone else." or "What, am I not giving you enough attention? Do you think that you are special, that I should treat you better than I treat everyone else? You arent BETTER than any of the rest of my friends, and I treat you the same as them." This tends to knock em down a little too. You're calling them out on being an AW. They have no argument except, "well, you USED to call me more, and blah,blah,blah," and you say "well, I USED to think I had a shot with you, but you're obviously not interested, so I'm moving on. Is there something wrong with that? If you think I'm gonna be your puppy dog, you're wrong, sweetheart. You're hot and all, but so am I." This approach can sometimes turn her around and make her go for you. I've had it happen. It demonstrates confidence, by admitting you WERE going for her, and are OK with her not liking you, and that you have value. Turn ons.

thanks, I actually wasn't LJBF'd yet, but I felt that I was close to LJBF land from how she treats me and obviously already in the friendzone, so I really want to act on it as soon as possible...

so which is really better, to not notice her existence at all or to still remain polite by smiling or saying hi when she says hi?
 

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If you sit in front of her in class, make sure you make yourself FOCUSED on what you're doing, and don't pay any attention to her. Talk to the people around you about the subject. Make plans to hang out with them. Meet some girls with them, and then talk about the weekend and they'll eventually ask yo how it's going with that new girl you me.

Start wearing cologne. I recommend Versace Man and Diesel Fuel For Life.

When you see her, just be chill and tilt your head up and say "what's up". Don't IGNORE her, just limit conversation, as in, don't try to get snagged into one, or try to drag it out.

Remember, the less you talk, the more you say, and the less chances there are of you saying something dumb.
 

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Vice said:
If you sit in front of her in class, make sure you make yourself FOCUSED on what you're doing, and don't pay any attention to her. Talk to the people around you about the subject. Make plans to hang out with them. Meet some girls with them, and then talk about the weekend and they'll eventually ask yo how it's going with that new girl you me.

Start wearing cologne. I recommend Versace Man and Diesel Fuel For Life.

When you see her, just be chill and tilt your head up and say "what's up". Don't IGNORE her, just limit conversation, as in, don't try to get snagged into one, or try to drag it out.

Remember, the less you talk, the more you say, and the less chances there are of you saying something dumb.
Hehe, I'll keep that in mind...especially the wearing of cologne
 

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Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Btw, I already deactivated my facebook account so as not to get any updates of her anymore...I also don't want to keep looking at her profile anymore, or posting something stupid that reeks of me liking her (i know i know...classic afc) now should I be invisible from her on my messenger or delete her?

'coz I think that the pros of not deleting her of yahoo messenger, would send her the sign that I'm not interested in chatting with her while online and possibly would make her start up a conversation with me when she feels like I am ignoring her already while online

while if I go invi or delete her, then I would not be tempted to make contact with her, but maybe I'd be too obvious that I'm avoiding her and she'll think something's up, and she might not contact me since she thinks I'm offline
 

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Man up.

You're acting like a girl. Deactivating your facebook? Are you crazy???
Going cold on her? Why not act like you got a pair and just forget about any kind of action regarding this girl and move on to a new girl.
 

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RandallLambert said:
Man up.

You're acting like a girl. Deactivating your facebook? Are you crazy???
Going cold on her? Why not act like you got a pair and just forget about any kind of action regarding this girl and move on to a new girl.
she's not the only reason I deactivated my facebook, I was spending too much time answering quizzes and surveys that it was already becoming an addiction
 

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She messaged me on messenger this afternoon saying something random that she left the book I lent her on the classroom and that she hurriedly went to get it back because she got scared it might get lost, I thought that she could've kept it to herself, maybe she already noticed that I was ignoring her on ym and decided to message me. i didn't reply back, and simply ignored her message
 

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doctorj said:
Btw, I already deactivated my facebook account so as not to get any updates of her anymore...I also don't want to keep looking at her profile anymore, or posting something stupid that reeks of me liking her (i know i know...classic afc) now should I be invisible from her on my messenger or delete her?

'coz I think that the pros of not deleting her of yahoo messenger, would send her the sign that I'm not interested in chatting with her while online and possibly would make her start up a conversation with me when she feels like I am ignoring her already while online

while if I go invi or delete her, then I would not be tempted to make contact with her, but maybe I'd be too obvious that I'm avoiding her and she'll think something's up, and she might not contact me since she thinks I'm offline
You're making it look like you're trying way too hard. That's sending precisely the wrong message.

The key thing you want to communicate to her is that you've moved on and that you no longer care about her. If she realizes that you've gotten off Facebook, that you've blocked her on IM, it shows that you've let her get to you. That'll be a big ego boost to her.

What you should do first is genuinely try and forget about her. Put your focus on other girls. Don't go out of your way to ignore her. If she talks to you, politely respond but always cut the conversation off quickly and be the first to walk away. Give the attention you used to give her to other girls.

In time, she will either get jealous and try to get you back or she won't be affected at all. It's a win-win situation either way. You either stoke her interest or you realize that there wasn't any really there and you won't waste effort on a lost cause.
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ElGuapo said:
You're making it look like you're trying way too hard. That's sending precisely the wrong message.

The key thing you want to communicate to her is that you've moved on and that you no longer care about her. If she realizes that you've gotten off Facebook, that you've blocked her on IM, it shows that you've let her get to you. That'll be a big ego boost to her.

What you should do first is genuinely try and forget about her. Put your focus on other girls. Don't go out of your way to ignore her. If she talks to you, politely respond but always cut the conversation off quickly and be the first to walk away. Give the attention you used to give her to other girls.

In time, she will either get jealous and try to get you back or she won't be affected at all. It's a win-win situation either way. You either stoke her interest or you realize that there wasn't any really there and you won't waste effort on a lost cause.

ok thanks el guapo, I'll just be available on her messenger list...but not talk to her unless she initiates conversation
 

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doctorj said:
ok thanks el guapo, I'll just be available on her messenger list...but not talk to her unless she initiates conversation

Try this instead.

If she tries to message you, say "hey am pretty busy right now, I'll try you later, ok?" then log off, and DONT try back later.
 
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