The LadyKiller
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For awhile, I've wondered what my problem has been when it comes to a lower-than-desireable success rate with women. I believe I have finally found the root. I am over-the-top. I believe that is the problem.
I am naturally an outgoing, energetic and gregarious/talkative guy. I have a lot of confidence in myself and feel I can take on any challenge and achieve success. I am not intimidated by others and will start a conversation with literally anyone. At the same time, I try to keep interactions positive and avoid unnecessary drama.
Unfortunately, I get a sense that girls misinterpret this in the following ways:
- They think I am hitting on them strongly. Usually not the case. When I first meet someone, I have no problem starting a conversation. With some quick humor, it helps break the ice.
- They think I like" them. Similar to the first reason above, these girls seem to think that there are feelings in play just because I am conversing with them like a normal human being. I'm not making a move, or getting a number, or arranging a date; it's really just smalltalk. Not even much (if any) kino, since again most girls I'm not going to instantly "like." My friends and other guys I know talk to them too, but apparently I must speak some different language.
- They think I will spread gossip. Makes sense that talkative people will spread gossip and such. I don't, and anyone they'd ask will agree. I don't want to be the subject of gossip and therefore hold myself to that standard; I don't spread rumors or reveal secrets others ask me to conceal.
- They don't think I listen, then accuse me of being "weird" when I remember what they said. Again, the belief is that people who talk a lot don't listen. I listen - and remember what she says. So when I run into the same girl again and pick up on something she said, I get confused when she asks how I know that particular detail. Umm...because you told me?
This results in:
-Girls don't open up. - No matter the circumstances, they will act in the same manner all the time. No emotion. They turn into robots. Always the same tone in their answers (they try to sound positive), any attempts at furthering a conversation (getting them to open up about themselves) are turned away. It's an circle.
Where's the party? One way of achieving social proof is by having girls in your company. Well, one of the "results" here is that I don't have that luxury. Therefore, I'm not as much in the know about parties or other social gatherings. I am usually only invited after a close friend of mine tips me off about a party.
They never initiate. This is similar to my first result. If I don't do anything, neither will they. However, with my friends and other guys I know, girls at least will start some sort of conversation with them. With me, if I do nothing, that's it.
I feel these results all stem from the fact they believe I am over-the-top. Being outgoing + normal = creepy? That makes no sense, it does not add up. My question is, how do I hone my energy into a strength? I believe that to make things happen, you have to take the bull by the horns. If you sit around, nothing will come.
I am naturally an outgoing, energetic and gregarious/talkative guy. I have a lot of confidence in myself and feel I can take on any challenge and achieve success. I am not intimidated by others and will start a conversation with literally anyone. At the same time, I try to keep interactions positive and avoid unnecessary drama.
Unfortunately, I get a sense that girls misinterpret this in the following ways:
- They think I am hitting on them strongly. Usually not the case. When I first meet someone, I have no problem starting a conversation. With some quick humor, it helps break the ice.
- They think I like" them. Similar to the first reason above, these girls seem to think that there are feelings in play just because I am conversing with them like a normal human being. I'm not making a move, or getting a number, or arranging a date; it's really just smalltalk. Not even much (if any) kino, since again most girls I'm not going to instantly "like." My friends and other guys I know talk to them too, but apparently I must speak some different language.
- They think I will spread gossip. Makes sense that talkative people will spread gossip and such. I don't, and anyone they'd ask will agree. I don't want to be the subject of gossip and therefore hold myself to that standard; I don't spread rumors or reveal secrets others ask me to conceal.
- They don't think I listen, then accuse me of being "weird" when I remember what they said. Again, the belief is that people who talk a lot don't listen. I listen - and remember what she says. So when I run into the same girl again and pick up on something she said, I get confused when she asks how I know that particular detail. Umm...because you told me?
This results in:
-Girls don't open up. - No matter the circumstances, they will act in the same manner all the time. No emotion. They turn into robots. Always the same tone in their answers (they try to sound positive), any attempts at furthering a conversation (getting them to open up about themselves) are turned away. It's an circle.
Where's the party? One way of achieving social proof is by having girls in your company. Well, one of the "results" here is that I don't have that luxury. Therefore, I'm not as much in the know about parties or other social gatherings. I am usually only invited after a close friend of mine tips me off about a party.
They never initiate. This is similar to my first result. If I don't do anything, neither will they. However, with my friends and other guys I know, girls at least will start some sort of conversation with them. With me, if I do nothing, that's it.
I feel these results all stem from the fact they believe I am over-the-top. Being outgoing + normal = creepy? That makes no sense, it does not add up. My question is, how do I hone my energy into a strength? I believe that to make things happen, you have to take the bull by the horns. If you sit around, nothing will come.