"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How do I change relationship to longterm status??

picard

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I need advices from everyone about my relationship with new woman. I went out with her on 2dates. She is shy person who hasn't dated since 19yrs old. She is now 34yrs old.


How do I take this relationship to longterm status? What the heck should I do? I am out of practice in this area.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How do I change a relationship to long term status??

You don't, she does.....
 

Heretolearn

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good posts by both.

Read the Bible and retain your 'self'

Give attention when you want to but not all the time.

All the time means you show your worst and your best. Limit it to giving attention when you want to and that will mean you show your best side!
 

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Re: How do I change a relationship to long term status??

Originally posted by OpenMind
You don't, she does.....
First off Picard, glad to see your starting to see a little more success.

Secondly, this is the second time I've noticed that your trying to be too eager. A common AFC mistake. I don't mean to call you down, but I would just like to point out that you are clinging too much to your successes and looking for too much from the women you date. For example your previous thread where you want to jump into society's old failing AFC traps of buying a women's love.

It almost seems to me like you need a women to complete you. You should work on being content w/ yourself, and being able to be alone before you will achieve success at the next level in your relationship.
 

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MacAvoy has many good points. Try not to rush things. I find that the more eager I am, the more she will back off. Let her decide when it gets to relationship status. Don't have any kind of agenda but treat her well without making it feel as if there are strings attached.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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