"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How did your divorce go or engagement that never happened

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Hamurabimbi

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While divorce sucks. I had an amazing post divorce. Killed it on Tinder. Got a teen girlfriend (I’m middle aged). Ultimately. My ex-wife wanted me back so bad we became FWBs.
Again. It was so stressful, my hair went gray and my work forced me into an EAP program.

Post divorce I became a crazy wild man drunkard banging girls decades younger than me. My ex-wife coped by buying a Porsche
 

ManFromTartarus

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My divorce was brutal, worst case scenario, vindictive & bitter ex + young child = disaster. It spanned several court cases involving abduction/relocation, parental alienation, and estrangement. Not to mention the financial toll as I cleaned out by the lawyer and was forced to pay child support twice what I should have due to loopholes in state laws.

Although my post divorce freedom period was spectacular, being older & wiser dating young women, having fun again, but it was short lived. After a couple of years of trying to live some good life I fell into a long period of strife and depression, from the burdens of alienation, estrangement, finances, and other responsibilities.

It took its toll on me because it was so difficult for such a long time and I admit over time it left some scars inside of me that affected my mental makeup and social life & skills. It's the reason I started lurking here years ago, reading the old articles, and became a member. .... and the reason I chose my forum name.
 

corrector

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Yeah, self represented and did the paper work myself. Watched some movies in the cinema near the court house.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The Duke

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Its one of the hardest things to ever go thru, but we got a lot sorted out and get along fine with each other these days.

As far as splitting assets and the court part, that was painless. We didn't need any overpriced lawyer because we were civil and respectful with each other.

It was probably one of the best things to ever happen to me. It forced me to get out of my own element and once I started understanding women, I had a 5yr run of dating all sorts of wild women. It was a freaking blast.
 

Divorced w 3

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Its one of the hardest things to ever go thru, but we got a lot sorted out and get along fine with each other these days.

As far as splitting assets and the court part, that was painless. We didn't need any overpriced lawyer because we were civil and respectful with each other.

It was probably one of the best things to ever happen to me. It forced me to get out of my own element and once I started understanding women, I had a 5yr run of dating all sorts of wild women. It was a freaking blast.
Did you have kids?
 

BaronOfHair

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Vanderdonck

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I have great respect for the institution of divorce. Mine was cheap, painless though the emotions were tough. Still, best decision I could have made.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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BadBoy89

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Was engaged.

Told her "I'll buy you whatever I can while we are together. BUT, if you want out, you get a Diet Coke and a ride to the airport." She didn't go for it.
 

eli77

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While divorce sucks. I had an amazing post divorce. Killed it on Tinder. Got a teen girlfriend (I’m middle aged). Ultimately. My ex-wife wanted me back so bad we became FWBs.
Again. It was so stressful, my hair went gray and my work forced me into an EAP program.

Post divorce I became a crazy wild man drunkard banging girls decades younger than me. My ex-wife coped by buying a Porsche
Eap!?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

eli77

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Its one of the hardest things to ever go thru, but we got a lot sorted out and get along fine with each other these days.

As far as splitting assets and the court part, that was painless. We didn't need any overpriced lawyer because we were civil and respectful with each other.

It was probably one of the best things to ever happen to me. It forced me to get out of my own element and once I started understanding women, I had a 5yr run of dating all sorts of wild women. It was a freaking blast.
What city?
 
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