"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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inquisitor

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I learned this site and its forums from Tomassi. How about you?

And as an additional question, how do you suppose new guys find their way into this forum?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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sharkfinale

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Liberal --> Oneitis --> --> Tradcon --> Oneitis --> --> Tomassi --> SoSuave
 

Westminster

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A couple of years ago, after a vicious divorce.

(on the internet trying to understand what had happened to me and why)
 

Lean Baby Face

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After wanting to read up on what happened to Roosh V, I discovered from the search results that his old forum had been revived by a fan, and then while lurking, I came across a post where other forums including SoSuave was mentioned. I then checked it out and decided it was probably the best and most active manosphere forum out there now, so I signed up and here we are.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Serenity

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Got turned down by a girl I was interested in, like with many girls before her, but that time I finally thought differently.

Instead of continuing to just be lost I finally started wondering why the hell I couldn't get what all my friends seemed to get. I set out searching for answers on Google, but it would take a couple of months until I found something that actually seemed to address the problem.

The first things I found for a long time was just cheesy pickup lines, I immediately knew that wasn't it. I then came across a Norwegian blog talking about pickup, but from the perspective of starting out at my level, full of social anxiety and then figuring out how to succeed. I immediately knew this was the sort of thing I was looking for, how to go from a fvcking loser to someone who succeeds with women.

They had a forum and someone there posted a link to the Book of Pook. I read the entire thing and had realization upon realization throughout it. It wasn't until I was done reading it that I realized that this "book" is really just a compilation of forum posts made by someone calling himself Pook, and this was the forum it was posted on.

That's how I ended up here back in 2013.
 

Solomon

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It was 2008 long story short I was googling on how to get a girl or stuff like that heavily at that time.
Found the forum in August of 2008 totally changed my view on things, SIgned up in September and the rest is history
 

Hamurabimbi

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After more than a decade of marriage. Which ended in late 2018, I had no clue as to what dating was like in the ‘modern world’. SS along with Rollo, Roosh & others clued me in.
Ultimately, it wasn’t all that different. Except for Tinder.
 

BeExcellent

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The old lady stumbled onto SS in the summer of 2015. I was in my first relationship and LTR post divorce and my man had an ex-wife who was diagnosed BPD (and she was utterly diabolical). I was researching BPD and an old thread here surfaced in my search. I started reading and realized my bf was not alone in dealing with serious crazy.

I lurked for months until in December of 2015 when I felt compelled to contribute my thoughts on a thread made by an arrogant young man.

Been here ever since. I totally embrace this place as a male space, so I try to conduct myself with grace, and appreciate the very real need to help men figure out relationship stuff and life stuff.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SW15

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I learned this site and its forums from Tomassi.
I think Tomassi has helped many discover this site and its forum.

I found this site back in high school and I can't remember how...probably just searching "how to get good with girls" or something and found a page what wasn't tied to some PUA trying to sell me something.
You really achieved that. Going from a limited experience high school to a 30 year old man with a 90+ notch count is a success story.
 
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