"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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How did YOU conquer Approach/Coversation....?

Malachi

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Ok so there are alot us guy's who have ****s but really don't use them alot as were **** at..or won't or even afraid to approach that would find some comfort in hearing how the real dj's on this forum managed to conquer the approach, and the conversation that follow's...like i guess chat-up line or the first few sentences i guess.

I do approach every now and again, when the op is there and i'm not feeling like a wimp....but i think i fail on the conversation side of this...just want to know how you guy's managed.

Please don't direct me to the bible which i've read a few times...i wanna get FRESH opinions....as times change and so do people.

-Malachi

ON A SIDE NOTE: i send that i was a skinny guy who couldn't gain weight....i've now gained like 3-4lbs....not much, but to someone who finds it impossible to gain weight...it's good!.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Distant Light

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Well there is actually one thing that trys to stop everyone and thats approach axiety, everyone gets it some get it more than others. This is what causes most people to freeze up but if they are actually practicing and learning they will start to see improvement. Only way you could get good with the conversation is if you learn the elements in the seduction world. (Such as what are negs, C&F, hoop theory, Screening,etc) Most people here don't know what there doing they just go in str8 for the rapport or eject early because they run out of things. Like seriously, I've always wondered how the hell does anyone not have anything to say, if you were talking with your friend you could talk all day but this one time your with a hot girl and you can only hold a conversation for 2 mins.

I don't even feel like explaining opening and all that, too me though it may seem the hardest but it is by far the easiest if you know what your doing.
 

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Yeah it's just the hardest thing i find is the first like 2-3 sentences that comes outta my mouth...like the first thing you say to them.
 

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Same problem here, it's not hard approaching for me, but holding the conversation.
 

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orignally posted by Distant Light

Like seriously, I've always wondered how the hell does anyone not have anything to say, if you were talking with your friend you could talk all day but this one time your with a hot girl and you can only hold a conversation for 2 mins


When you talk to your friends they're interested and also try to help in the conversation. When you run out of things to say, you or the other person will add to the conversation or think of something. Some girls tend to just stand there and act "pissed". Usually if girls were more receptive sometimes it would be easier, but I guess that also adds to the screening process.

Another example, let's say a girl approaches you. (Even if it's not to hit on you.) Do you just stand there silently and stare at her? (Most people don't, if you do then you need some confidence lessons :) ) If she starts the convo, you usually try and talk to her and help the conversation. She probably walks too if you don't do anything but stand there.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I don't think i explained that properly but either way when approaching don't expect her to be into the conversation, as I was watching a DYD CD and TD was guest speaking. He talks about doing the 90/10 rule, it is a must that at first you speak 90% and her 10% of the time, because you just met so you have to talk and talk. (Thats why i think mystery says to be very talktative if you want to get good) also he demonstrated a neat way to bait girls kinda like your telling them exactly wat to say. An then he had 3 guys demonstrating it on each other.
 

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Conversations WERE a toughie, and everyone SHOULD agree.
I had troubles with conversating with GIRLS my entire life...until I stumbled upon this place in '05.

I never could flirt, maintain an interesting convo, or even approach a cute girl in the old days. I'd freeze up, and at best, I would make eye contact without even smiling. I get the chills thinking of my past. However, I conquered that fear by reading the SoSuave tips OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

What sosuave recommended, I did it. I thought to myself, "You can't be a loser forever; you have to do this!" Just the whole thought of being 30+ and never even having a date scared the crap out of me. Therefore, my fears of the future drove me to overcome my fear or rejections and/or talking with girls.
 

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I have just started approaching!!! :) Its easy once you get into it.

Have a look at my tip in the tips section to see how i got over the fear!
 

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I did approach last night, but i sucked at it BIGTIME...one of the funny moments of the night was when i said

ME:"HEY GIRLS ALLLRIGHT" .....i said this too excitedly and they looked at me and probally thought i was weird.

Then i approached another 2-3 girls....after that....

But i found that i'm totally ****E at conversation...but i think i'm getting the approach under control even though i was crap at talking.

I'll put up another thread about what MADE me approach.
 
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